I really wish I could be around to see the final product and see.

Well you know what? Maybe you will. I won't but you know, you know, at least that I can see it from far.

When Julie Yip Williams died on March 19th, 2018, she knew that a part of her would stay with the people she loved.

Julie had an unwavering belief in the afterlife and she spent a lot of

time convincing people to believe in it too. I'm Eleanor Kagan and this is the

epilogue where we're going to hear from the people closest to Julie about what their experiences

have been like in the Julie. It's nice. It's nice. There's nothing ritualized or formalized. I mean I've been sitting with Julie's book

With her words and with her voice in my ear literally for the last several months.

As he was finishing the book,

Mark spent hours and hours listening

to all those conversations that he had recorded with Julie.

So it's easy to just lapse into conversation.

Where do these come from and why?

Different kids, do you know that, right?

I do, but why?

You know what they're called?

They're called, um, something spinner's fidget spinners

fidget spinners exactly for people who will fidget

with their hands like you do.

And they were actually banned from my school, the kid's school last year.

Good.

I don't know where we got so many.

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