Hey, it's Kate, Anne Lindsay again.

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Because you are guilty, aren't you?

Are you guilty, sir?

I said my plea.

Exactly.

So, here is the thing that kills us about where that last episode left off.

With Judge Rosemary Aqualina giving Larry NASA up to 175 years in prison.

Thank you.

That's all for the record.

The bad guy got put away.

Survivors weren't believed.

It makes it feel like the whole thing, the whole Larry NASA case was just wrapped up with

a pretty bow.

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