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Eric Hersy. I'm entertainment writer Jim Hill and this is the podcast where we cover the

latest Universal News rumors and history and as always I'm I'm joined by my co-host, the formerly universal curious, now full-on enthusiast

for these theme parks and resorts.

Eric Hershey, so how are you tonight there?

Jim, I'm doing fantastic and I'll tell you what I just, I was debating on the annual pass route for

Universal.

We're going to go back down here in December and I think in the coming

weeks I'm going to really explore that whole annual pass and see if it makes sense. So not just

Universal Curious at this point in time almost a universal curious AP

question question. No no to that end and in fact let's let's invite folks into

the conversation here because obviously again you're going to be wanting to get the best

value out of your annual pass and but as somebody who isn't a local I mean you'll be climbing

into the car or getting out of plane to travel down there from

Wheeling. We'd love to have input from folks about what would the best annual pass be in this situation given that what you see yourself going

down there a couple times a year now or I think that's going to be the case now the

biggest thing is we didn't buy because the rumors were circulating for epic universe you had to have a

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