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Don't Salt My Game | With Laura Thomas, PhD

EP63 - Is #fitspo Really #thinspo, and is 'Strong' Just 'Skinny' Rebranded? w/ Anna Kessel - Author of Eat Sweat Play

Don't Salt My Game | With Laura Thomas, PhD

Laura Thomas

Wellness, Bodypositivity, Plantbased, Nutrition, Medicine, Health, Vegan, Health & Fitness, Wellbeing, Mindfulness, Nutritionist, Dontsaltmygame

4.8807 Ratings

🗓️ 29 September 2017

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

So excited to share this interview with Anna Kessel which was recorded live at the London Podcast Festival (which is why we sound like we're underwater at some parts 🐡). Anna is a sports journalist and author who advocates for gender equality in sports, but don't stress, she's not preachy about it. Having spent her formative years dodging PE like the rest of us, Anna developed a relationship with sport a bit later in life. We talk about how that relationship has changed over the years, especially now she is a mother. We also discuss how movement can ground us in our bodies and help us develop a better body image instead of being outside and looking at it more critically. However, this is pretty antithetical to the message we get from the #fitspo and #noexcuses movements which use punitive messaging to shame people into working out, or prey on our insecurities about our physical appearance. We also talk about campaigns that get it right and really empower women, like This Girl Can. Plus why it's so important that little girls have options besides party shoes for wearing to school. We also have some great questions from the audience at the end. Enjoy!

Show Notes

{Anna on Twitter | Instagram}
{Eat Sweat Play}
{Maureen Lipman BT Advert}
{This Girl Can Old & New Ads}
{Anna on Girls' school shoes}
{Why is #Fitspo a beauty contest?}
{Women's Sport Trust}
{Hannah Witton on Youtube}
{What to say instead of "you're not fat"}
{Eff Your Fitspo}
{Happy Healthy 50}

Transcript

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She's got the expert guests to help you feel your best.

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Shats down what diet shed.

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You shouldn't bother wet.

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Get all the real talk from the plant-based talk.

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Feeling good's in the frame.

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Now on Don't Salt My Game.

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No, don't salt my game. Hey guys, welcome to Don't Salt My Game. No, don't salt my game.

0:22.2

Hey guys, welcome to Don't Salt My Game.

0:24.5

I'm Laura Thomas, and we're having conversations with Game Changers.

0:27.8

So today, we're coming at you live from King's Place in Central London as part of the London Podcast Festival.

0:35.0

I'm joined on stage by the wonderful Anna Kessel, who is a journalist

0:39.6

and author. She writes for The Guardian and the Observer about women in sports and more specifically

0:45.2

about redressing the gender balance, not just in sports, but in all areas of life. In her book,

0:52.3

Eat Sweat Play, she describes how women's sport and exercise have the

0:56.1

power to change the lives of women and girls by bringing enhanced career opportunities,

1:01.3

closing the gender pay gap, and boosting self-esteem. Anna is the co-founder and chair of women

1:06.9

in football, and in 2016, she was awarded an MBE for her services to journalism and women's

1:12.9

sports in the Queen's birthday honors. Keep that one quiet, don't you?

1:16.9

Do not know that. I did some reason. I was not when I read the book, yeah. So today we're

1:23.0

going to be talking about Anna's personal experiences with sports and PE and why it's so important to get women and girls involved in sport. We're also going to be talking about Anna's personal experiences with sports and PE and why it's so important to get

1:28.7

women and girls involved in sport. We're also going to be taking a critical look at the

1:33.4

hashtag FITSpo movement and sort of sifting through whether or not the movement helped or harmed

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