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Inner Cosmos with David Eagleman

Ep59 "Do you visualize like I do?"

Inner Cosmos with David Eagleman

iHeartPodcasts

Mental Health, Science, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Education

4.6524 Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2024

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

How do brains picture things internally, and how might you and I imagine differently? How have recent discoveries completely changed the debate and the way we understand internal experience? What does this have to do with Disney's Fantasia, or Pixar's aphantasia? Strap in for some very wild surprises today about our internal experiences, with guest Ed Catmull, founder of Pixar Studios. 

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0:00.0

If you had to guess about the internal life, the conscious experience of the guy who co-founded

0:11.5

Pixar, the computer animation studio, what would you guess about what's happening inside his

0:17.3

head? And how do any of us picture things internally? How do we visualize?

0:24.3

These sound like simple questions, but strap in for some very wild surprises today about our

0:30.1

internal experiences. Welcome to Inner Cosmos with me, David Eagleman.

0:38.5

I'm a neuroscientist and an author at Stanford.

0:40.8

And in these episodes, we dive deeply into our three-pound universe

0:45.7

to uncover the most surprising secrets about our lives.

1:03.2

Today's episode is about visual imagery.

1:08.1

Now, I'm not talking about vision when something is in front of us and photons are bouncing off it and hitting our eyes and our brains are doing the

1:10.9

analysis. Instead, I'm talking about when you're sitting there, let's say, listening to a podcast

1:17.3

and the speaker says, hey, imagine watching a bluebird landing on a tree branch in the spring.

1:25.8

Imagine the bird looks around, moving its head curiously,

1:30.4

and then it flaps its wings for a moment,

1:32.8

then it hops to a different spot,

1:35.4

then it flies away.

1:37.6

Now, there's no blue bird.

1:39.1

Instead, your brain is taking everything

1:41.6

it's ever learned about bluebirds in the past and generating internal visual imagery,

1:48.1

all in the pitch blackness of your skull.

1:52.0

How does that work?

1:53.8

And how did recent discoveries here completely changed the debate in psychology and neuroscience?

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