Welcome to the Fat Emperor podcast.

I'm your host, Iber Cummins.

Hey, today we're back to meaty topics and I'm going to be having a conversation with Stephen Thomas,

who actually works with Sean Baker in the Meat RX team and he's a physical trainer and a dietary advisor but he can explain himself but certainly

there's a lot of high nutrient density meat related aspects to the treatment if you will to get out

of diabetes as we've talked about now for nearly 10 years so great great to see you, Stephen, for the first time, I think.

Yes, it's nice to meet you online, I've.

We did actually speak, it's a nice segue for you, about three, four years ago when I was

considering a CAC scan.

And this was when I was beginning to realize that low carb was possibly the best thing for me,

having come from a really long background, since I was 14, I've been into sport, a teenager,

I dabbled with semi-professional soccer playing and I was running, but I knew something was wrong and I thought what I'll do is if I'm going

to go low carb, I'll do a benchmark because I'm also a trained phlebotomist, that's something

from my past. So I knew I would do a full set of bloods and I'd do a CAC scan as well. And I

messaged you on social media actually and said,

I'm going to give this a go.

You did reply, so that was very nice, very kind of you.

And long story short, I had a score of 639.

So it was quite high.

But the interesting thing, a couple of interesting things,

I think you'll find it quite interesting.

Because I was a personal trainer, I'm 57 this month, I went in and I thought I looked okay, but I was plump and I shouldn't have been because I was running three times a week and I was doing 10 miles plus and low fat everything and orange juice and porridge and all that sort of stuff.

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