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ergonomics podcast, a podcast all about rugby and business.

I'll shortly be joined by Mark Evans. However, I need to tell you a few things. First of all, go and follow Tim on YouTube. He's doing absolutely outstanding work. In fact, I think he's off overseas again to make more amazing content. So go and find him.

Brilliant content, two, three times a week. And if you like the podcast, you'll absolutely like that.

And obviously, this podcast is brought to you by Bairdmore & Co, independent financial advisors.

And if you can't tell by the name, that is me.

That's pensions, investments, protection, financial planning, all of that good stuff.

Now, if you don't know who Mark is, Mark was the ex-CEO of Holoquins, formerly involved with Saracens, also in rugby league in the NRL,

but now is heading up the Fiji Drura.

Mark, how are you?

J.B., I'm good, mate.

In Suva, we've got our first game in about just under two days time and we launched the Drewa Foundation

today and yeah it's quite interesting time what will what will the foundation be doing

I think this is really important right because you and I have a conversation we will be we are

I feel like I'm repeating

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