This isn't your average business podcast and he's not your average host.

This is the James Alteter Show on the Standsbury Radio Network.

So I have Peter D. Amindus and Steven Kotler, author of the new bestselling book, Bold,

and I definitely recommend this book. It's called Bold, How to Go Big, Create Well, and

Impact the World. And it was totally an inspirational book. And Peter and Steven, before I finished

the intro, I just want to say why it was inspirational to me. I am so sick of doom and gloom

media. Every day you open the newspaper and it's like, oh, grease debt is going to topple

the world and it's the end of everything. But I always, you guys wrote abundance a couple

of years ago. Now you have bold. There's always this optimistic view that makes sense where

technology is moving ahead so fast, it's basically going to surpass all this doom and gloom

news that's out there. Do you get that reaction from your books, from readers of your books?

Yeah, I think it's one of the reasons that people are drawn to it is we are saturated by every

news media on the planet bringing negative news to your television and high definition over and

over and over again in every news media we have. And I think people need to not only hear the good

news but have a mindset that allows them to say, okay, just because he's using me it tells me

this doesn't mean that's the way the world really is. There's a there's a cognitive bias and

Steven over to you, pal. Yeah, I mean, James, he's not wrong. The brain, the way the brain

doesn't mean the brain. Yeah, it means Peter's right. We're being massive aggressive there, Steven.

Yeah, the secret secret secret. I wish he was wrong just one, but I

there's there's this great Wolfgang Polly story where Wolfgang Polly was like 18 or 19 years old

and heard Albert Einstein give a lecture and you know Einstein was already famous at this point

and I think it won the Nobel and afterwards Polly stood up and said, you know what Mr. Einstein said,

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