I am unashamed. What about you?

So welcome back to unashamed.

And as we've explained to you before,

you guys have had a day in between us pontificating on Jace's nugget, but for us we just finished it.

And Zach had a huge big point, but before you make your point, Zach, before you do your open, which was going to be our close,

you sent a word, you did it kind of quickly, about halfway through the last podcast, and I didn't quite

catch it.

It was another big one.

What was that word you talked about?

Was God's great?

I used the word teleology.

Teleology.

Or telos for short.

It's, it's, uh.

I think I coughed when you said it. Yeah, it's it's intense.

Actually I got it from when I was used to study apologetics back in the day and there's an argument called the

teleological argument it looks at the design of the universe. Well maybe you

should take it back where you found it. Oh no no it's good it's good. I. I actually think it's just the word just the

I give me the argument without the word because that all it did was make me cough and so

the argument is essentially you look at the design in the universe and if there's a design then there's a designer.

I thought that's where Jayce was going with the watch because I'd heard that before.

Yeah, but he didn't he went a different direction but Zach you've heard that before. But he didn't. He went a different direction, but

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