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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey

Ep 821 | Why Antidepressants Don’t Fix Depression | Guest: Dr. Roger McFillin

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey

Blaze Podcast Network

News, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, News Commentary

4.619.2K Ratings

🗓️ 13 June 2023

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Today we're joined by Dr. Roger McFillin, clinical psychologist and co-host of the "Radically Genuine" podcast, to discuss where the field of psychology has gone wrong. We talk about his skepticism of the field, starting with the cultural shift when Prozac was brought to market. We discuss the importance of emotions and managing them and what's causing the dramatic increase in mind- and mood-altering drugs in adolescents. Then, a hot topic: Is there ever actually a need for SSRIs (also known as antidepressants)? And if not, how do we navigate psychological treatment without the quick fix of numbing? We also take a look at the marketing of pharmaceutical drugs and exactly who's pushing them and why. Stay tuned for part two tomorrow! --- Timecodes: (00:43) Intro / criticism of the psychology field (08:03) Prozac & SSRIs / emotions matter (11:34) Increase in mind and mood-altering drugs in adolescents (17:49) Is there ever a need for SSRIs? (25:54) "Quick fixes" / possible effects of SSRIs (30:05) Marketing of drugs & healthcare skepticism --- Today's Sponsors: EdenPURE — when you buy one Thunderstorm you get one FREE, this week only! Go to EdenPureDeals.com, use promo code 'ALLIE'! Seven Weeks Coffee — Seven Weeks is a pro-life coffee company with a simple mission: DONATE 10% of every sale to pregnancy care centers across America. Get your organically farmed and pesticide-free coffee at sevenweekscoffee.com and let your coffee serve a greater purpose. Use the promo code 'ALLIE' to save 10% off your order. Carly Jean Los Angeles — use promo code 'ALLIEB' to save 25% off your first order at CarlyJeanLosAngeles.com! Reliefband — save 20% off plus free shipping at Reliefband.com when you use promo code 'ALLIE'! --- Relevant Episodes: Ep 735 | WE’RE BACK! The Secret to Happiness for Women https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-735-were-back-the-secret-to-happiness-for-women/id1359249098?i=1000593314230 Ep 803 | The Science Behind the Dangers of Screen Time | Guest: Dr. Nicholas Kardaras | Part 2 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-803-the-science-behind-the-dangers-of-screen/id1359249098?i=1000612546999 Ep 650 | COVID Comeback, Depression Meds, & Alzheimer’s Scandal | Guest: Dr. Jay Bhattacharya https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-803-the-science-behind-the-dangers-of-screen/id1359249098?i=1000612546999 --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:23.0

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0:30.0

There has been a sharp increase in the prescription of drugs for depression and anxiety in recent years, as well as mood altering medication for children.

0:39.0

What's really going on here? And what are the consequences of this alarming trend?

0:44.0

Today's guest clinical psychologist Dr. Roger McFillin has the fascinating answer. This is part one of our two part conversation on the truth about mental health and the powerful industry behind it.

0:57.0

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1:04.0

Dr. McFillin, thanks so much for joining us. For those who may not know, can you just tell us who you are and what you do?

1:19.0

Yes, first of all, thank you for having me. Congratulations, by the way.

1:22.0

Thank you. My name is Dr. Roger McFillin. I am a clinical psychologist. I'm also the co-host of the podcast, Radically Genuine.

1:29.0

I run a large group practice in Bethel and Pennsylvania, which is about an hour north of Philly.

1:36.0

And I think a lot of what's brought me onto various podcasts and here today is what I'm being vocal about on social media and through the podcast, which is to be honest with you, it's really just being critical of my field in general from the over prescription of psychiatric drugs.

1:53.0

What typical therapy has become, the ideology that's influencing it. In fact, I make pretty controversial statements that I believe that entering into the system, the mental health system does create harm and could create harm.

2:09.0

And I tried to provide information, science based information to help people make informed decisions as well as just try to communicate to parents who have children and adolescents who are struggling about what might be the safest, most effective course.

2:25.0

So you became a psychologist, but you are critical kind of of psychology that industry, how did that happen? Did you go into it critical and wanting to change things or did you kind of learn, like look around at some point and say, oh, this is not what I thought it was.

2:43.0

Yeah, interesting story. I don't think when I was in undergrad, my intention was not to be a clinical psychologist. I thought I was going to be a teacher and a football coach. And I accepted a job right after undergrad as I was determining my next steps at a children's psychiatric hospital.

3:00.0

And to be honest, what I observed in that setting, and this is back in 1999, 2000 was absolutely appalling. I worked on a unit ages five to 10. So these are relatively very young kids who came from very abusive and traumatic backgrounds.

3:15.0

So these children would react as you would expect anybody would who was under a trauma response, abuse in homes, very difficult upbringing and violence in their homes.

3:27.0

And I just observed how the mental health system worked with these kids. I there was a psychiatrist on the unit who would basically ask basic questions, what is your name, why are you here? And then write up a pretty thorough psychiatric evaluation and prescribe one or often multiple psychiatric drugs.

3:46.0

And I saw these kids deteriorate. I really did. It was my first observation of what mental health care was in a lot of ways. It was the sedation of behavior. And they viewed at that time, and I think still today, that an effective mental health treatment is when somebody numbs their own emotional states or they become sedative.

4:11.0

And we'd see kids who were sleeping 16 hours a day. The life was taken out of them after they were put on these prescription. They started sleeping.

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