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The National Security Law Podcast

Ep.80: SCOTUS-palooza

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8646 Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2018

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Hot on the heels of the Kennedy retirement announcement, we've got our special Supreme Court finale episode!  This is the show for you if you would enjoy detailed and amicable debate and discussion concerning: the consequences of Kennedy's retirement for national security and other issues; what the ideological range might be for the next nominee; the Carpenter decision, its nuances, and its implications for foreign intelligence investigations; and the Travel Ban decision, the nature and justifications for "national security deference" in that case, how Kennedy may have pulled Roberts into hot water, and especially the Roberts-Sotomayor dispute over the relevance of Korematsu. Or, you could skip to the end for a review of Solo: A Star Wars Story.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello from Austin and welcome to episode 80 of the National Security Law podcast, brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas. It's Wednesday afternoon, June 27th. I'm Bobby Chesney and I'm not retiring. I'm Steve Vlodic and I'd just like to say, President Trump, if you're listening, I would happily move to Washington if you were willing to nominate me to succeed Justice Kennedy on the Supreme Court.

0:34.3

Vegas odds makers. Prepare the odds. There is not a number high enough.

0:39.4

There is not a known number high enough.

0:41.9

All the supercomputers in the world put together could not generate a large enough number

0:47.0

that to one would reflect the odds of me being nominated by President Trump to the Supreme Court.

0:51.6

I think you're right.

0:52.1

So I'll put down one dollar on it and I'll reap millions.

0:55.5

Chedrillions. An infinite amount. I get all the, I get all the bitcoins.

1:00.2

So, I mean, I should say, I mean, we had always planned to record today to catch up on all the big

1:07.0

Supreme Court decisions. And it turns out that I think the biggest Supreme Court decision was not actually an opinion,

1:13.7

but rather Justice Kennedy's announcement earlier this afternoon that effective July 31st, he's out.

1:19.5

Justice Kennedy didn't like all this wave of stories about it being Chief Justice Roberts Court

1:23.7

and Roberts being the new swing vote.

1:26.7

So he's stolen the headline at the last minute. He's a

1:29.3

scene stealer. I mean, folks who have listened to our podcast enough times know how I feel about

1:36.2

Justice Kennedy. I think that... Actually, I don't feel like I do. Oh, yeah. Well, then let me let's do

1:41.6

run of show and then we're going to want to talk about this.

1:49.4

So we're going to talk about Justice Kennedy and his successor and what that could mean, especially for our cup of tea.

1:59.4

That is to say, national security, executive power type issues. And of course, some listeners are chuckling when I say, let's do the run of show because they may have read the run of show earlier today.

2:00.8

Spoiler alert. Someone, someone sent us a list of show earlier today. Spoiler alerts. Spoiler alerts.

2:03.1

Someone sent us a list serve email.

2:05.6

Yeah, so let me explain that.

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