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🗓️ 29 May 2021
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0:00.0 | Welcome to Rick and Bubba University, the podcast. Thank you so much for spending time with |
0:11.5 | us. Bubba, today, we're going to be interviewing a friend of the program, Chris Hodges, Founding |
0:17.7 | and Senior Pastor of Church of the Highlands. Church of the Highlands has campuses all |
0:23.1 | over at last estimate, about 60,000 people attending weekly. He and I just talked about the |
0:30.7 | association of related churches before we started this. This is a church planning organization |
0:36.1 | that's planning churches all over the country and around the world. Chris, welcome to |
0:40.2 | Rick and Bubba. Glad to be here. We're going to talk about your |
0:44.0 | latest book, and we can talk about other stuff too, but this was really intriguing because |
0:49.3 | the book is called Out of the Cave. It's available everywhere, already a best seller in three categories. |
0:54.3 | The Ford is done by Rick Warren, and Out of the Cave stepping into the light when depression, |
1:02.0 | darkens what you see. I have had so many people throughout my time of being part of being |
1:10.7 | discipled or discipling others or ministering to people, even people that I know personally, |
1:16.6 | that they get into a time of depression. The first thing they think of is, what's wrong with my |
1:22.9 | faith? Am I out of God's will? Am I out of God's favor? Am I doing something wrong? Is it |
1:33.3 | possible for someone who has an extremely strong faith to go through depression? Or is that just a |
1:38.6 | worldly thing? Obviously, you've been through the same thing because here is the book. |
1:44.1 | Yes, so my journey back to begin in 1999. The only time I've ever really been, what I thought was |
1:51.4 | clinically depressed, and I'm not that type. In fact, I was very critical to people who were depressed |
1:57.0 | saying, just get over it. Be happy. Just choose it until I experienced it. I was still living in |
2:03.6 | Baton Rouge at the time. I was an associate pastor. After that year, it was so bad that I thought, |
2:11.6 | if something hadn't happened soon, I'm going to need to check myself into some kind of |
2:15.7 | treatment. I was hiding behind it. I was smiling at church, doing my job. Everything's great. |
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