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Ep 79 | Coming 'Out of The Cave' of Depression | Pastor Chris Hodges

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🗓️ 29 May 2021

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

In 2001, Pastor Chris Hodges started a small core group of believers that would grow to become Church of the Highlands, which now hosts a weekly attendance of over 50,000 people across 21 campuses. But in 1999, Pastor Hodges was depressed. He was in the wrong place doing the wrong thing. His latest book, "Out of The Cave," looks at depression through a biblical lens and shows that life is not about finding pleasure, it's about finding meaning. By sharing his own stories and struggles, Hodges hopes to destigmatize the mental health conversation and show people how to deal with depression in themselves and those they love. Check out this episode of Rick & Bubba University and see that you are here on purpose, for a purpose. Sponsors: Tommy John is here to keep you comfortable. Treat yourself and upgrade to a few pairs of Tommy John underwear in the softest, most breathable fabrics you’ve ever worn. Tommy John obsesses over every little detail and stitch by using proprietary fabrics that perform like nothing you have ever worn before. All of Tommy John’s loungewear and leggings are built for next-level comfort. Whether you’re in the hunt for lounge pants, sleep shorts or lazing-around joggers, Tommy John has you covered. Tommy John is so confident in their underwear that if you don’t love your first pair, you can get a full refund with their Best Pair You’ll Ever Wear Or It’s Free Guarantee. Tommy John, no adjustment needed. Hurry to save 15% on your first order at TommyJohn.com/RickBubba! My Patriot Supply - Survival Supplies & Emergency Preparedness Gear - Trusted Self-Reliance & Food Independence The original Patriot survival company. My Patriot Supply was founded by people with a passion for self-sufficiency and food independence. They not only understand the drive to practice emergency preparedness, but we are also active participants in the survivalist lifestyle. They believe that true freedom comes from attaining a certain level of self-reliance. Right now SAVE $50.00 off a Four-week supply of their delicious meals that give you Two-Thousand-Plus caloreis a day. PrepareWithRickandBubba.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Rick and Bubba University, the podcast. Thank you so much for spending time with

0:11.5

us. Bubba, today, we're going to be interviewing a friend of the program, Chris Hodges, Founding

0:17.7

and Senior Pastor of Church of the Highlands. Church of the Highlands has campuses all

0:23.1

over at last estimate, about 60,000 people attending weekly. He and I just talked about the

0:30.7

association of related churches before we started this. This is a church planning organization

0:36.1

that's planning churches all over the country and around the world. Chris, welcome to

0:40.2

Rick and Bubba. Glad to be here. We're going to talk about your

0:44.0

latest book, and we can talk about other stuff too, but this was really intriguing because

0:49.3

the book is called Out of the Cave. It's available everywhere, already a best seller in three categories.

0:54.3

The Ford is done by Rick Warren, and Out of the Cave stepping into the light when depression,

1:02.0

darkens what you see. I have had so many people throughout my time of being part of being

1:10.7

discipled or discipling others or ministering to people, even people that I know personally,

1:16.6

that they get into a time of depression. The first thing they think of is, what's wrong with my

1:22.9

faith? Am I out of God's will? Am I out of God's favor? Am I doing something wrong? Is it

1:33.3

possible for someone who has an extremely strong faith to go through depression? Or is that just a

1:38.6

worldly thing? Obviously, you've been through the same thing because here is the book.

1:44.1

Yes, so my journey back to begin in 1999. The only time I've ever really been, what I thought was

1:51.4

clinically depressed, and I'm not that type. In fact, I was very critical to people who were depressed

1:57.0

saying, just get over it. Be happy. Just choose it until I experienced it. I was still living in

2:03.6

Baton Rouge at the time. I was an associate pastor. After that year, it was so bad that I thought,

2:11.6

if something hadn't happened soon, I'm going to need to check myself into some kind of

2:15.7

treatment. I was hiding behind it. I was smiling at church, doing my job. Everything's great.

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