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investment and you should not expect to be protected if something goes wrong I may. I'm April Voki and you are listening to Ancard. My chance to speak with some of the most

influential people involved in the outdoors today. Join me as I travel to sit face to face with my guests

in their own homes to learn more about their careers, opinions,

history, relationships, and life both indoors and out.

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Mark Bachman owns the fly fishing shop in Welch's Oregon, one of the most famous fly

shops on the West Coast. He started it in 1981 and has been an industry leader since.

I met up with Mark at a shop to see if I could share the story

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