When you have a whole generation of people who've essentially started their careers in a remote basis where life and work are kind of the same thing, it makes sense that people are kind of struggling to grapple with the idea of separating those again and the imbalance that could come based on their life experience so far.

One of the iconic scenes of office space is the commute and how soulless it is.

And now we're talking about how soulless it is to not commute.

And so I find it interesting is that, you know, I like our version of the world.

Welcome to The Lost Debate, a show for Politically Ecclectics. I'm Robbie Gupta. And I'm Ricky Schlaught. Well, Ricky, I was planning on us being in studio together, but I think you got strep, huh? Yeah, a little under the weather. It's something that I have gotten, like, so many times in my lifetime. It's incredible. But yeah. We've gotten strep many times. So many times.

I'm just one of those people. I'm like a petri dish for it. I don't know why. But yeah, but we were

out of studio last week and the latter half of the week you were down in Dallas at a podcast

conference that got quite a lot of media attention. How was that? Yeah, this is the podcast movement conference. And I was,

I just stopped there on my way back from LA to do a panel with the folks at Athletic Greens.

And which is a weird thing to do in and of itself. I've never like been to a podcast conference.

And you know, I'm used to political conferences and

education conferences there's a whole different vibe but ben Shapiro showed up you know the Daily

Wire had a booth there and like a very prominent booth and ben Shapiro apparently showed up just to

I guess check out the booth and leave and the podcast conference sent out a tweet apologizing for Ben Shapiro's appearance, which

I found really interesting because they had already agreed to have this booth from

Daily Wire with Ben Shapiro's photo on it.

And just because he arrived, I guess, I guess the implication is that he created, Ben Shapiro

created an unsafe space. And I don't know, I felt pretty safe. I'm he created, Ben Shapiro created an unsafe space.

And I don't know, I felt pretty safe.

I'm not afraid of Ben Shapiro, Ricky.

Yeah, I think the proof here is that they were just reacting to the outrage of it and the attention

because they were planning to theoretically host his company in some sort of way.

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