Welcome to the Dear Love Joy podcast and it's a special.

I'm a special.

I turn myself into a political interviewer again this week and

and interview Alastair Campbell.

I was like a young Paxman.

I was like Peston or Andrew,

a combination of them all. It was Frost Nixon. It was just like that, wasn't it? Except the questions weren't as intellectual. No, it was really good actually. We covered a lot of subjects today. He was here to talk about his book Saturday, Bloody Saturday, but we we covered. That's a novel, isn't it? Yeah, we covered off

masses of stuff as well. Maybe or slightly, to some people, politics is slightly off putting

sometimes, isn't it? Yep. But he's so interesting with it, but also sports, winners,

some mental health stuff, which, but he's very good at toy. toy it's not it's not a sort of miserable

listen it's a it's an interesting sort of guiding listen I think and also for any people who are

interested in politics or anyone who studies the history of politics as well anyone who's

you know really got in-depth knowledge I come up with the solution oh my god at the end I come up with a solution. Oh my God.

At the end, I come up with a solution for politics,

which I think could be world changing.

So it could change the world.

I don't want to spoil it.

Change the world.

Don't want to spoil it for anyone,

but you lost my vote.

I'm going to have to take my,

I'm going to have to take my, I'm going to have to take my, um, uh, vote Tim car sticker off my bike.

...