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The Breakdown with Shaun King

Ep. 703 - Why I won’t be canceling Kyrie Irving

The Breakdown with Shaun King

The North Star

News, Society & Culture

4.812.6K Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2022

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

In 1990, soon after his release from prison, Nelson Mandela traveled to New York, and was interviewed by Ted Koppel in front of over 1,000 people at City College. To start the event off, a man in the audience all but demanded that Mandela denounce Fidel Castro, Yasser Arafat, and Muammar Gaddafi.

On today’s full episode of The Breakdown I’ll play Mandela’s brilliant and timeless answer, where, in short, he tells the man, “You make a big mistake to think that your enemies are my enemies.”

Kyrie Irving is not our enemy. I know this man personally. He is a kind, compassionate, giving, inquisitive soul. He is a dedicated father and son. And I have seen him, time and time again, actually BE THERE for Black people at our time of need. Not just with words, but with resources.

Does that mean I support everything he says or does? Or vice versa? Of course not. I can’t name a single soul on Earth in which that is true for me. I don’t even agree with everything my own wife or mother say or do.

And that can never be the standard.

I’m not here to pit Kyrie and Kanye against each other, but they aren’t the same person and aren’t guilty of the same things. Kyrie has owned his words and actions. And apologized for the ways they caused offense.

Now, I will literally defend the right of Jewish people for that to not be enough for them. That’s their business.

But we simply cannot allow other people to define for us who we cancel and who we don’t. That ends with us having no leaders and heroes.

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Love and appreciate you all.

Shaun

Transcript

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0:00.0

Everyone is seeing a rise in their energy bills.

0:02.8

So try a few small changes this winter, which could save you a lot.

0:06.7

Like, switching off appliances instead of leaving them on standby.

0:10.6

Turning your thermostat down a degree,

0:12.6

ideally keeping it between a comfortable 18-21 degrees.

0:16.5

Or using a lid on your pots and pans.

0:19.5

It only takes a little energy to save a lot.

0:22.4

For more energy-saving tips and advice,

0:24.8

visit saving-energy.co.uk.

0:27.8

Cadant, your gas network.

0:30.6

In just a moment, I have a brilliant clip from Nelson Mandela,

0:36.1

who at the time had just been freed from prison during a part-tide in South Africa.

0:42.8

He's traveled to the United States. He's in New York.

0:46.2

He's at City College. He's being interviewed by Ted Copper.

0:50.2

And a man in the audience demands that Nelson Mandela dissociate himself

0:57.7

from Palestine, from Cuba, from Fidel Castro, from Yasa Erafat, from Qaddafi.

1:04.3

And there is a famous clip where Nelson Mandela answers that man's question.

1:09.9

Two great applause in the audience, but two extreme frustration

1:15.2

from the man that asked that question and from some other people in the crowd.

1:19.6

And I want to start today's episode in just a moment

1:22.9

with that question and with those words of Nelson Mandela,

1:27.2

where people often assume that we share the same enemies.

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