Welcome to the Dear Lovejoy podcast. It's a special.

Today's guest is Harriet Harmer. Now, regular listeners will know a little while ago I said,

I really want to get an MP on the podcast and talk to them all about being a politician.

Harriet Harman released a book called A Woman's Work, so I thought that's a good opportunity to get an MP on.

Started reading our book and wow, I really did enjoy her. It's such a,

such a great insight into the women's movement and her political career, just how tenacious

she's been throughout the whole of her political career and the abuse she got from the media

and an MP and she just keep going and

going and going. And I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,

there's so many things I wanted to ask her.

It was nearly as long as the book your notes.

I realized I was running out of time as well because she has to go off to go to prime minister's question time.

So, you know, there was a definite time she had to leave.

And I was running out of time.

I thought, oh, I could go into hours and hours on this because I just, you know, wanted to talk to anything.

But what was interesting about it also was the fact that she, you know, as an politician,

every time you go into an interview, you have to be switched on.

For the first time ever, as an interviewer, I felt that I had to be switched on as well

because every, there's a few questions, I must admit, are poor

because they're quite long-winded.

What would you give yourself out of seven?

Seven, for some of those questions were poor.

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