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While Andrew and Craig believe the joy of discovery is crucial to enjoying any well told tale,

they will not shy away from spoiling specific story beats when necessary.

Plus these are books you should have read by now. Oh, uh, uh,

uh, uh, Hey everybody welcome to over do it's a podcast about the books you've been a

meaning to read my name is Craig my name is Andrew holes they're everywhere

all around us they're out in space they're in our own spaces mhmm-hmm like you know your sewer

drain and your toilet and your sink is a whole an object or is it the

absence of a lot is the only thing you can put in a barrel that makes it lighter. Yeah. It is a thing we're thinking

about when you I'm sure the Greek philosophers thought about this. About holes? Well just about is is absence a thing? I think about that when I was trying to, you know, my son isn't really ready for numbers, but we have a number puzzle that used to be your sons and the number zero

zero is on it.

Yeah.

And it's just struck me that I don't exactly know the history.

I know it's like a thing you learn in school that like some people didn't know

zero existed but they still have numbers. Well I think I mean I think for the

purposes of the puzzle it's there so they can have an even number of numbers

without having to do 10.

Yes, correct.

I think that's true.

Yes.

Or even you can experiment with the many double digit numbers that include a zero.

Yes, that's true.

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