Okay, I want, this is what I want to do, I want to run this fast, I want to place this.

And as I think we'll get into, I fell into the trap of having an all or nothing mentality.

If I didn't run really fast, if I didn't place really high, then nothing else mattered.

Welcome back to the Trailhead of TrailRunner Nation, that weekly trail run where you can go with us on a virtual trail run and an interesting guest today that's going to share some really cool things that might help you become a better runner, a better racer, and it actually can apply to your every day life and make you a better human being.

Scott, I'm glad you brought that in a better human being today we run with Joe, you and Doctor, you on, and he's going to speak about the essential elements of becoming a veteran runner information you need to apply on every race if you want to be successful.

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then visit inside tracker dot com slash TRN, welcome to another edition of trail runner nation, my name is Scott war and I'm done Freeman and today we're having a great podcast, I think it's going to be great, I'm excited to be here because we're going to talk about some things were all interested in Scott,

you know what that means I really have no that means don't have not done one Iota of preparation for this Joe anyway,

Hey, we're going to talk with Dr Joe you on he's been on our podcast a number of time he's one of the asked the coaches coaches, he's a renowned physical therapist, he's a board certified orthopedic specialist functional manual therapist and a USATF level to coach.

Oh, Don, did I mention he can actually run pretty fast too, he's a pretty successful runner, I know that I was going to mention all of these things, Scott, but you cut me off, I'm glad you you went ahead and put it together, Joe has practices in Eugene Oregon and now in Auburn, California, we're glad to have him, I'm glad to have him here in Auburn because he's worked on me, if you've kind of come across some of his insights and articles at I run far or ultra runner.

Magazine that's the same Joe you on and he's here to share.

I want I want to say unique there's some people that have probably had the same experience, but it's not very common with the Western states 100 that's coming up here at the end of June end of this month and it's a race that not only that he not only experienced firsthand, but he has an intriguing take on this and today we're going to discuss why many have referred to

Western states 100 as the killing machine and we're going to find out why Joe believes it's a killing machine.

And more importantly, how to tame or silence the relentless beast, but don't worry if you've never run Western states or like many of us, you're never going to get into Western states, you're not one of the lucky 381 people that are going to start the race this year.

Some of these principles you can take into your own running, whether it's a long adventure run, a training run or even an a race or b race so Joe thanks for joining us tell us why did you coin the term the killing machine or is that from someone else that you borrowed.

I did and it was after it killed me.

And what mile did the course get its name to killing machine, were you still on it?

I made it halfway in 2013 in my last run, so I made it to Michigan bluff and then was staggering around after that.

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