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Mindrolling with Raghu Markus

Ep. 623 – The Story Of Kind Karl: Raising Mindful Kids with Sharon Salzberg and Duncan Trussell

Mindrolling with Raghu Markus

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Religion, News, Mindrolling, Mindpodnetwork, Mindpod, Meditation, Society & Culture, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Consciousness, Mindrollingpodcast, Psychedelics

4.7543 Ratings

🗓️ 6 December 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Discussing the loving-kindness lessons in Kind Karl, Sharon’s first children’s book, Raghu, Duncan, and Sharon chat about raising mindful kids who can become mindful adults.  

Kind Karl will be released on 12/9!  Co-authored by Jason Gruhl, this illustrated picture book is for 4-8 year-olds and is a new children’s adaptation of Sharon’s beloved book Lovingkindness. To learn more about Sharon’s forthcoming children’s book, Kind Karl, and pre-order a copy with a special pre-order gift, you can visit Sharon’s website, right here. 

This time on Mindrolling, Duncan, Sharon, and Raghu connect over:

  • Sharon’s upcoming children’s book on mindfulness and loving-kindness, Kind Karl
  • Understanding how habits like greed and fear begin in early childhood
  • How issues like greed have roots in early childhood
  • Learning from Karl the Crocodile: navigating big feelings, mistakes, and emotional complexity
  • Karl the Crocodile as an inspiration for parents dealing with guilt and stress
  • Making mindfulness accessible and engaging for children of all ages
  • Putting our thoughts onto clouds and allowing them to float away
  • Loving-kindness meditations for kids: getting the whole family into mindfulness practice

About Sharon Salzberg:

Sharon Salzberg is a meditation pioneer, world-renowned teacher, and New York Times bestselling author. She is one of the first to bring mindfulness and lovingkindness meditation to mainstream American culture over 45 years ago, inspiring generations of meditation teachers and wellness influencers. Sharon is co-founder of The Insight Meditation Society in Barre, MA, and the author of twelve books, including the New York Times bestseller, Real Happiness, now in its second edition, and her seminal work, Lovingkindness. Her podcast, The Metta Hour, has amassed five million downloads and features interviews with thought leaders from the mindfulness movement and beyond. Learn more about Sharon and her books at www.sharonsalzberg.com and check out Insight Meditation Society.

“It’s not a small thing to have even a little act of kindness because of what’s happening to us inside. That’s something Karl the Crocodile gets into. He really decides to change when he makes that experiment, which can be kind of radical: help them instead of hurt them, help yourself, and forgive yourself. How does it feel inside when we choose that?” –Sharon Salzberg

About  Duncan Trussell:

Duncan Trussell is a stand-up comedian, podcaster, and actor. His popular podcast, The Duncan Trussell Family Hour, has been downloaded over 25 million times and is known for its blend of humor, fringe ideas, eclectic guests, and great interviews. The DTFH is the foundation for Duncan’s Netflix animated series, The Midnight Gospel, which he co-created with Pendleton Ward in 2020. To learn more about Duncan’s work, visit his website at duncantrussell.com.

"It starts right at the beginning, they want each other's toys. This is built into us. Whenever you look out into the world at the stuff going on and the big picture, it really isn't that different from siblings, except the problem is that these are adults and there isn't anyone to tell them, okay, you're getting a time out." –Duncan Trussell

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, it's mind rolling. I'm back and I'm with really two loves of my life.

0:17.0

Sharon Salzberg and Duncan Trussell. We haven't done that we, boy, it's been a long time since

0:23.3

the three of us did anything, uh, podcast wise, right? Like any. It's been a while. Yeah.

0:31.8

So we're, we're, uh, we're going to talk a little bit. Sharon highly unusual, you might say, but not really.

0:40.6

Sharon has a children's book out called Kind Carl.

0:45.2

And it's great.

0:47.8

Thank you.

0:49.1

And we have a man here who is increasing his family on a day-to-day basis, so to speak.

0:55.8

I'm breeding.

0:56.8

I'm making up for all you guys out there.

0:59.0

No way.

1:00.0

I think the last time I saw you, you had one child.

1:04.0

Yes.

1:05.0

Now I have three and one on the way in a few weeks.

1:10.0

Oh, it's a few weeks. Oh, it's a few weeks.

1:12.1

Oh, yeah.

1:13.7

Wow.

1:15.6

So, Sharon, what do you think?

1:25.6

Where's this aimed at in terms of, we know what's the age three to eight or something like that

1:32.2

yeah yeah yeah um so what better a person to give us a little feedback than this man sitting in

1:42.4

front of us. I agree.

1:45.9

I'm so eager to hear.

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