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Hello and welcome to Raising Good Humans.

I'm your host Dr. Lisa Pressman,

and today's discussion is with Professor Sunni Luther,

who is a professor of psychology at Arizona State University

and a professor emerita at Columbia University's Teachers College, where I had the privilege of working

with her as my first mentor in my first lab in graduate

school.

Sunia did decades of resilience research and while she started working with youth and poverty and children and families affected by mental illness,

she encountered another vulnerability,

teenagers in affluent communities going to high achieving schools.

This is not something that people understand is an actual vulnerability

that puts kids at risk. It does, and we're not having this vulnerability that

that puts kids at risk. It does and we're not having this conversation to scare anyone.

This is really a conversation to help parents buffer the effects of that risk and

what we can do about what's going on right now with these

achievement stresses. I wanted to start by having you explain what resilience

looks like?

Resilience is essentially doing well, functioning well in the face of adversity or stress of any kind.

So basically if you're talking about children and adolescents that they're functioning well in terms of their school work getting on with peers with teachers and you know not experiencing

mental health difficulties. That's basically what resilience means. If we're

thinking about resilience I think a lot of people are, make assumptions that you're either

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