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go to amazon.com.ukau.U.K. slash prime. Welcome to the Codenubi podcast, where we talk to people on their coding journey in hopes of helping you on yours.

I'm your host, Saron, and before we kick off the show, I want to tell you about our incredible sponsors.

I'm your host, Sauron, and today's guest is cartoonist and interaction developer, Rachel Neighbors.

Rachel, you want to say hi?

Hi, everybody.

So you weren't always a developer.

You actually started as a cartoonist.

Do you want to tell us how you made that transition?

Well, I was kind of forced to do it.

I had been using, well, let's put it this way.

I built my first website probably when I was like 17, and I used it basically so I could share my web comics with people.

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