Ep. 581 – Befriending our Shadows with John Lockley
Mindrolling with Raghu Markus
Be Here Now Network
4.7 • 543 Ratings
🗓️ 14 February 2025
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
John Lockley joins Raghu to discuss befriending our shadows and finding freedom and joy in a world of upheaval.
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In this episode, Raghu and John explore:
- Relinquishing hatred and growing our compassion bit by bit
- The unifying force that connects all people
- Working on self-kindness and not feeding into self-deprecation
- Being respectful to our enemies rather than perpetuating evil
- Allowing our spirits to relax and engage in play
- Discovering our dream gifts and harnessing them within reality
- Finding our purpose and listening to our ancestors
- Ether and spaciousness as food for our dreams
- Not letting technology control and distract us
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About John Lockley:
John Lockley began his journey as a young medic drafted into the South African military. He then trained under Zen master Su Bong from South Korea, and returned to post-Apartheid South Africa to spend 10 years in apprenticeship with MaMngwevu, a medicine woman from the Xhosa tribe. John now splits his time teaching in South Africa, Ireland, Europe, and the US. Find out more about John’s work and learn more about his numerous upcoming events, retreats, and other offerings at JohnLockley.com.
“The political system at the moment is tough, but sometimes it’s actually not as tough as you think it is. You need to find freedom where you are free. You’re not in jail; feel the freedom of walking, of going into the sea, of going into the wilderness, and let your spirit feel free. That’s very important.” – John Lockley
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, everyone, it's Ragu back with mind rolling and dear old friend who I connect with as much as we can every year |
| 0:23.9 | because he's in right now in South Africa where he is from John Lockley welcome hi Raghu good |
| 0:32.2 | to see you many of you remember John because we've done a lot of different podcasts together and he's also, |
| 0:41.3 | while Ram Dass was still with us, was at one of our retreats, and he is very special. |
| 0:51.3 | You are a very special being. |
| 0:56.0 | And I really thank you so, you Ragu. |
| 0:58.0 | I really thank you for the work that you're doing. |
| 1:02.0 | You know, so John and I communicated some time ago about, you know, |
| 1:07.0 | what we thought would be great to talk about. He had some ideas. |
| 1:20.2 | And we are in, you know, one of them is, you know, in terms of how to heal a very troubled world. |
| 1:26.2 | Of course, we have to heal ourselves before we can do anything, or at least at the same time. |
| 1:38.0 | So I just think that the living example of an inspiration that we can take right now, |
| 1:52.8 | most especially for this humongous divide that we have and some really, shall we say, uncompassionate behavior? |
| 2:05.0 | There is no such word, but let's just say, not very compassionate behavior on behalf of many of the people that are leading the country. |
| 2:09.1 | So can you, yeah, talk about Mandela. |
| 2:12.8 | And I mean, I know, you know, I read some of what you wrote. I thought, you know, that would be just tremendous. |
| 2:17.7 | I actually read, I don't know if you know this story, that much later after he was out |
| 2:24.5 | of jail, after he had, you know, been in office and so on, is it not true that his jailer |
| 2:30.3 | happened, he happened to meet his jailer at some point, way after this. Do you know that story? |
| 2:38.2 | I think there was different jailers, but one of the jailers that he became very close to was actually on his right-hand side when he became the president of South Africa. They became very close friends. |
| 2:48.7 | Uh-huh, okay. |
| 2:54.8 | Well, anyhow, talk about him and what his import is based on, you know, |
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