I do bad as we've just, I've just finished recording with Shane and it's a fantastic episode. It always is. He's, he's very eloquent and he's just lived and breathed this stuff. But the areas I think you'll find really interesting, we really go into contingencies and what it takes to actually put on some of the races. And he talked about a Navarra virus.

I've probably bitched to the same app.

Sorry, I'm ill.

I'm tired.

It's been a long, long day.

And all his other contingency planning, he has to do for things like Kate Rath and the

dragons back, you know, the most iconic races in the UK.

But he also, we go into

quite a lot of depth about how he got there and his climbing career and the amount of risks he

took as a free climber and even getting to trouble being arrested by the French police for

climbing a very famous French building. You're going to love this episode. Take it away, guys.

They're bad. They're boys, and occasionally they talk about running.

Yes, it's the Bad Boy Running podcast with your host, Jody Rainsford and David Heller.

Come back.

Baby, come back.

But a bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye bye I must admit I was a clown to be messing around but that doesn't mean that you have to leave town come back

our next guest I think I've emailed him about 17 times and then always forget to send the second email when he's like, this is great, let's do it. And so apologies, it's taken us so long. He came to the Ranshow last year. He was my favorite guest by far, partly because of the stories he told we weren't expecting, partly because of the stories he couldn't tell us that he then told me on the stand when I went by to a stand afterwards.

You know him from Cape Raff, from Dragon's Back, from basically everyone he does is iconic.

We've already talked about how it's tough times in the industry.

We're not doing an episode about that because, you know, we've recognized that recently, but also it's a waste of Shane's experience and stories as well. So welcome to the podcast, the wonderful Shane Oly.

Thank you. That's a fantastic introduction. And now I've got to measure up to that.

Well, because I can't even remember what the topic we talked about at the run show.

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