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Welcome to the trailhead of trail and that runner nation we go on virtual trail runs with experts on mental physical training all sorts of stuff we bring them on to help you become a better runner and hopefully a better human being if this is your first time we welcome you with open arms lace up your shoes let's get down the trail and today we're running with doctor Rob Bell he's a PhD and is an expert on mental toughness wrote books and we're going to talk about how 90% of this sport is in our head and the other

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welcome to another edition of trail runner nation my name is Don Freeman and I'm Scott war and we have a great topic we just told you about today and when it comes to mental training we thought who can we talk to what guests can we have back on the program to talk about mental training

and it was a very easy easy jump to let's get Dr Rob Bell back he's been on the podcast before where we did talk about mental training which is one of the favorite subjects that we like to talk about here at trail runner nation

if you don't know who Rob Bell is he's a certified mental performance coach with years of academic research and real life coaching experience

he's also the author of puke and rally it's not about the setback it's about the comeback if you haven't read that book go out and get it either a paper one or an audible one it's a great great book

we came up with this idea because we came across this article called the running in the science of mental toughness written by Mariska van Sprandel

and we read through it we thought you know there's so many great things here let's send it over to Rob Bell and see what he thinks and he was quick to say yeah I like some of these concepts let's talk about it so Dr Rob Bell welcome back to the podcast and let's go through some of this you got it man

here's one of the things that came to my mind and it was about if we could just measure the lactic acid threshold the amount of force and power an athlete could create

why do we even have to run a race at all why can't we just look at some of these physiological measures and then predict the outcome

there must be something else and I think that's something else is right in your genre

will you sit will you set me up there that was kind of a question oh it was yeah that was a setup right you keep all that in there because that's the real deal right there

I'm not a practice man what do you think about that Rob is just using terminology out of my out of my will house

I was like a slider like lo and away I was like I'm not touching that man that was tough or oh and what well I mean I can I can answer that

because in theory and practice they are exactly the same but in practice they're totally different that's how I answer that one man

what does that mean you just threw one high and inside to me yeah man it's like you know that can be

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