Hello America today we have a fascinating podcast. This is a guy who has been speaking out on what's going on in Ukraine for about three years now. His name is Andre Telushenko.

He is a former advisor to the prosecutor general in Ukraine. The guy that Joe Biden fired and if you think he's going to be an apologist for him, I think he'll be shocked to hear.

He didn't last long with that prosecutor general. Why? And why is he sticking up for him today? You'll see. He's also a former advisor of the first deputy prime minister of Ukraine.

He has a lot of credentials. He also has seen a lot. He went to work for the Ukrainian embassy in Washington DC and he actually was the guy who set up the meetings between their anti-corruption bureau in Ukraine and the DOJ.

And the Obama administration meeting at the White House. He said red flags were everywhere and he brought it up to the ambassador and he has been talking about this for years. Nobody really wanted to listen.

Now he's trying to let his voice be heard but media companies say well your story doesn't match with the story that we're telling. It doesn't match with what we're hearing from the ambassador.

Well you know who it does match with our chalkboard. While we have a few things wrong perhaps in the chalkboard he sets us straight on those things. Do you believe him? You're going to have to decide.

Listen to him or if you're viewing this, look him in the eye and tell me if you think he's just playing a game and just trying to do the bidding of Rudy Giuliani or if he's telling the truth.

Today a one-on-one with Andre Tela-Shanko from the Ukraine.

I don't know if you watch much television or see much of what's going on here but we don't know who to believe.

We're getting two separate stories and the investigations that we have done we have found a completely different story than what we're getting in the media. Have you seen any of our reporting?

Yeah I just actually a couple of days ago my friend sent me a link to your program when you described the whole narrative what happened from the beginning.

So basically today the television of the scene on the Biden story everything so basically I watched it and then I got a call from your show to go on air so that was interesting.

You talked about it perfectly almost time by time they didn't date wasn't long so there was a good picture and actually give example in your program to other people to understand what is happening in this story because a lot of people don't know the thing point is someone today of Giuliani starts with this investigation.

I don't understand what happened years before this and it's a bigger picture than it is in the last media today.

Right and I want to get into what has happened with Giuliani etc etc but I really want to start at the beginning because I think there are two stories.

Did Trump do something wrong? Did Giuliani do something wrong and that is separate from what were the Democrats doing.

If they were both doing something wrong we should know that if one side was doing it we should know that as well.

I just want to find out the facts on corruption because your country has enough problems you don't need Americans coming over and making things worse.

Let's start here you were the former advisor to the prosecutor general of Ukraine that was shaken was it not?

It was getting around and it was shaken out towards outside work with him for a before months and then I resigned and went to work they ran and we've seen Washington.

Okay and where the other ones happened.

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