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Welcome to the Codewood-Nobie podcast, where we talk to people on their coding journey in the hopes of helping you on yours.

I'm your host, Saron, and before we kick off the show, I want to tell you about our incredible sponsors.

Today, we are continuing our conversation with programmer Dave Thomas.

Last week on episode 50, we talked about his own coding journey and his work as founder

and publisher of the pragmatic bookshelf. And today we are getting back into the code side of

things. So let's get to it. So there are two concepts that I bet most of our listeners have

heard of that I believe you came up with. So the concept of a code

cata and the concept of don't repeat yourself. So let's talk about code cata's first. Where did that

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