And welcome, folks, to this edition of The Hagen Report.

It is Thursday, October 16, 2025.

I want to welcome you to this episode.

I've got something a little bit different planned for you, okay?

You know, in light of everything that's taking place that has taken place.

I mean, the death, the destruction, the, um, the, um, the, the, the very well intended,

uh, very well intentioned, I should say, um, individuals who are working to get to the bottom of certain things, certain mysteries,

you know, I want to kind of lay a foundation of reality. Okay, there's things that we are presented with, you know, on the, on the internet or in digital form.

And that's, we work with things, of course, in that venue, but not like, not like many people are.

Okay.

And the real life, in real life, IRL is a lot different than a TV show or what other people might attempt to do with respect to Internet images and videos and such.

And I'm going to show you the difference.

I'm going to lay this out.

Almost like a, I don't know, almost like a course in investigations of 101, but a little bit more

advanced than that because I know the viewers, the listeners are a lot more advanced. Okay. So, but I'm going to address this because I know the viewers, the listeners are a lot more advanced.

Okay, so, but I want to address this because I had a conversation this week with someone who said,

you know, there should be enough evidence.

I mean, name the event where we could, um, we could actually find the truth.

And I said, you know, you know what?

In some cases, yes, others know.

And I just want to stress too, because in my experience, um, while the techniques to address a for example address a crime

scene or to handle a crime scene well the techniques are pretty standardized the steps that one takes

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