Ep. 474: How Cosmetics Are Regulated, with Kelly Bonner
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4.8 • 1.8K Ratings
🗓️ 27 January 2023
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
As an advisor to numerous clients in the beauty industry, trial attorney Kelly Bonner plays a part in America’s complex system of cosmetics regulation—and she’s here to tell us about it. What does “natural” mean when it comes to hair care? Is topical collagen improving skin the way customers think it is? These are just some of the questions currently up for debate in the courts, as Kelly explains. Plus, she tells us how beauty brands test for safety and try to ensure their marketing doesn’t mislead customers; what you can do if you’re unhappy with a product’s performance; how the regulation of cosmetics differs around the world; and the reason the F.D.A. once used a traveling sideshow (called The American Chamber of Horrors!) to advocate for consumer-safety laws in the early 20th century.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, hello. Welcome to Fat Mascara. I'm Jess. Hi, everyone. I'm Jen. So this is our special Friday |
| 0:12.9 | episode. Jen is going to be having an amazing conversation. But first, Jen, what's going on? |
| 0:18.1 | What's going on? We have a little housekeeping. We're going to talk about, okay, you know how we put |
| 0:21.7 | out two podcasts every week for you guys. We have on Wednesdays, Jess, me, you guys talking about |
| 0:29.1 | news, back and forth, like shooting the breeze, fun, industry news, products we love, |
| 0:36.8 | raise a wand, we get the listeners in there. Those episodes that are normally like what, |
| 0:40.4 | a half an hour to 40 minutes are Wednesdays. Fridays, we always have an interview for you. |
| 0:45.5 | Either one or both of us interviewing a beauty expert, a celebrity, somebody we're interested |
| 0:50.3 | in learning more about slightly longer episode, deep dive. Well, it's come to our attention that |
| 0:55.3 | we have different listener groups for different episodes. Some of you listen to all of it. Some |
| 0:59.1 | people are Wednesday people. Some people are Friday people. Totally fine. It's totally fine. You do |
| 1:04.1 | you. We want to make it easier for everybody. So we're actually going to be keeping our numbering |
| 1:09.3 | system that we use. Like right now, you are listening to episode 474. We're going to be keeping the |
| 1:15.2 | numbers just for the Wednesday episodes. So on Wednesday, you'll see episode 475 with Jess and I. |
| 1:20.4 | Then on Friday, we will have an interview, but it will not have an episode number. It'll just be |
| 1:24.7 | the name of the interview person. It also makes it less confusing for people that might not be members |
| 1:29.0 | of the fam. We love you. Even if you're not a regular member, the fam and listener, but you can see |
| 1:33.7 | the interview episodes without like having too much of Jess and I obviously were the interviewers. |
| 1:37.7 | So we're there, but it's none of the fam stuff that you're used to. It's none of the deep dive |
| 1:42.1 | into the industry, that kind of chat back and forth. So those will no longer have numbers. So when |
| 1:46.9 | you look at your RSS feed, you probably don't even know what that is. So let's say you look at your |
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