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The Jim Fortin Podcast

Ep 416: Transformational Interview Series: Roel Van Oostenbruggen

The Jim Fortin Podcast

Jim Fortin

Education, Self-improvement

4.9 • 1.6K Ratings

🗓️ 12 August 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Start Your Transformation Now  In this inspiring episode of the Transformational Interview Series, Jim sits down with Roel Van Oostenbruggen, a TCP graduate who transformed his life by confronting his deepest fears. From feeling the pressure to “do it right” to overcoming lifelong patterns of anxiety and self-doubt, Roel’s story is a raw, relatable look at what it takes to break free from fear-driven living and reclaim your personal power.  Roel shares how his fear showed up in hidden ways—in his marriage, parenting, money mindset, and even in starting his business—and how TCP gave him the tools to finally stop letting fear dictate his choices. You’ll hear the pivotal moments when he recognized that anger was masking fear, the mindset shifts that allowed him to become more present with his family, and how embracing discomfort opened the door to authentic confidence and connection.  If you’ve ever let fear keep you from living fully—or doubted your ability to change—this conversation will show you that transformation is possible when you’re willing to see yourself clearly and step into your power.  What You’ll Discover in This Episode:  The “Stick Behind the Door” Approach to Showing Up Fully (03:13) Why investing in yourself creates the commitment needed for deep transformation.  From Perfectionism to Progress (07:32) How Roel broke free from the need to “do it right” and started embracing growth over perfection.  Recognizing Fear in Disguise (10:19) The moment Roel realized that his anger was actually fear—and how that awareness changed everything.  How Facing Fear Strengthened His Marriage and Parenting (17:58) The surprising ways personal transformation improved his relationship and parenting presence.  The Turning Point in His Business Confidence (27:07) How he stopped avoiding self-promotion and began naturally attracting clients.  Why Pressure Can Be the Forge for Your Potential (28:14) Reframing pressure as a growth tool instead of something to avoid.  The Master Thought Formula in Action (31:09) How Roel used this TCP tool to handle a stressful business situation with clarity and calm.  Listen, apply, and enjoy!  Transformational Takeaway  Fear will rob you of your highest potential if you let it. As Roel discovered, the key isn’t to eliminate fear—it’s to stop making decisions from it. When you recognize fear for what it is and choose to act from your values instead, you step into your true power. Life becomes less about avoiding discomfort and more about leaning into it, knowing you have the strength to handle whatever comes your way.  Let’s Connect:  Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | LinkedIn  LIKED THE EPISODE?  If you're the kind of person who likes to help others, then share this with your friends and family. If you have found value, they will too. Please leave a review on Apple Podcasts so we can reach more people.  Listening on Spotify? Please leave a comment below. We would love to hear from you!  With gratitude, Jim

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to the Transform Your Life from the Inside Out podcast.

0:04.2

This is a podcast episode and a new series that I have for the next 30 days,

0:09.4

and that series is called the Transformational Interview Series.

0:13.3

What I'm doing is I'm interviewing people that have already been through TCP,

0:16.8

the Transformational Coaching Program with me, and this is not about TCP.

0:22.7

This is about their transformation, things they were dealing with, things they have overcome, and they want to share

0:27.3

their story with you about how also you can be, do, and have more in life. Hi, I'm Jim Fortin,

0:34.7

and you're about to start transforming your life from the inside out with this podcast.

0:39.9

I'm widely considered the leader in subconscious transformation and I've coached super achievers all around the world for over 25 years.

0:47.9

Here you're going to find no raw, raw motivation and no hype because this podcast is a combination of brain science, transformational

0:55.7

psychology and ancient wisdom all rolled into one to take your life to levels you've never

1:01.5

thought possible.

1:03.1

If you're wanting a lot more in life to feel better, to heal, to have peace of mind, to

1:09.1

feel powerful and alive and to bring more abundance and prosperity

1:12.4

into your life, than this podcast is for you because you're going to start learning how to

1:17.5

master your mind and evolve your consciousness. And when you do that, anything you want,

1:23.1

then becomes possible for you. I'm glad you're here. So today we're talking to Rule, and I'm going to

1:30.6

try to pronounce his last name, and he was laughing at me earlier. So I'll let him pronounce it as well

1:35.1

because I'm a stupid American. I said, is it Ostenberger? And he said, no, but here's his last name.

1:41.3

So how do you pronounce it, Rule, and welcome. Thank you, Jim. My last name is pronounced Ostenbruggen. Ossternburgen. Something like, I just can't get that R in the throat. So we'll just call you a rule. How about that, go on a first name basis. That's fine. Thank you. We're going to just kind of very relaxed, very formal. I want to hop around here a little bit. You said that when I put out the invitation for people that wanted to be on the podcast,

2:06.0

your exact words were, you wanted to give something back. What does that mean?

2:11.9

First of all, I listen every day to your podcast when I go on my bike to my work.

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