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🗓️ 3 June 2022
⏱️ 52 minutes
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How do you know when you’ve hit your mid-life? What age does that happen? And do you need to change up your style and your beauty routine when you get there? Journalist and podcaster Kim France, creator of Girls of A Certain Age and co-host of the Everything is Fine podcast (and the founding editor of Lucky magazine) is here to discuss it all with us. We talk about those in-between ages that our culture and mainstream advertising tends to ignore—and why that is. Plus, we discuss sexuality after menopause; why beauty brands have a hard time talking to people in their 40s, 50s, and 60s; gray hair; whether “anti-aging” is a negative term; and so much more.
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Fat Mascara. I'm Jess. I'm Jen. Hi, everyone. Welcome. |
0:11.6 | It is our big interview day and I am psyched. We have Kim France in the house today in the virtual |
0:18.6 | steward. We are going to be talking about topic that Jen and I, if you listen to this pod, |
0:23.9 | this will not be new to you. We've been talking a lot about age inclusivity in the beauty industry |
0:29.6 | and Kim is the perfect person to speak to this. She is indeed. So, Kim France is a journalist |
0:35.5 | editor, a podcaster. She's worked for Sassy, Spin in New York magazines and was the founding editor of |
0:42.2 | a little magazine. Maybe you heard of called Lucky? I don't know. Launched in 2000. If you are a person |
0:48.7 | of a certain age, you've heard of that magazine. While she was editor there, she was named one of the |
0:52.6 | most powerful women in New York by the New York Post. And in 2012, she started girls of a certain age |
0:58.0 | of blog about style and smarts and shopping for, I'm going to say growing up women and we'll get |
1:02.4 | into it in the interview. She, she and author Jennifer Romalini also host everything is fine. |
1:07.6 | A podcast for, and this is how they describe it. So, that's what I'm going to say. It's a podcast |
1:11.4 | for women on life over 40. So, I'm really excited to talk to her. Truth be told, she's like, |
1:18.5 | Jess and I fangirled a little bit because we are both, as you know, fans of Sassy Magazine where |
1:23.3 | she was a writer for years. So, just bear with us as we get through that part of the interview. |
1:27.3 | And then enjoy the discussion, which is freewheeling and super fun, and we loved having her on the show. |
1:38.1 | Kim, hi, welcome to Fat Mascara. Hi, I'm so happy to be here. We're so excited to have you. We're |
1:43.7 | such fans of all your work, guys offline. We were already raving about how we're like Sassy's |
1:49.3 | biggest readers. We won't put you through all that again, Kim. I live and die. I live and die. |
1:56.3 | So, we want to have this conversation about women in aging. But before we even get to all of that, |
2:00.9 | tell me, do you identify with a particular, like, generation or age group? |
2:06.0 | Well, technically I'm the last year of the baby boom, 1964, but I don't feel like a baby boomer. |
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