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And now, from the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN Audio, the Axe Files, with your host David Axelrod.

A lot's been said about the trajectory of Pete Buttigieg, the first openly gay candidate to run for president, from small town mayor to top tiered contender.

But there was a related story, and that was the emergence of Pete's husband Chaston, as perhaps the most followed spouse on social media.

His often witty, fairy human observations made him a star.

And now Chaston, a teacher on hiatus, has written a memoir called, I Have Something to Tell You About His Own Journey and A Spouse's Life on the Campaign Trail.

I sat down with Chaston Buttigieg earlier this week. Here's that conversation.

Chaston of all the candidate spouses, I think you sparked the greatest interest in following certainly on social media.

Were you surprised by that? Were you surprised to find yourself, you know, six months earlier, you're a classroom teacher, and now you're like a social media figure?

I was surprised. Yeah, I often I sort of felt like an imposter in that arena. I didn't really feel like I was supposed to be there, and I was surprised that people were paying attention and wanted to hear what I had to say.

Some of it is your style, which is funny and personal, but a lot of it is your own story. So I want to ask you about that.

So tell me about the Gleismans. You come from a kind of typical working class family from the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Tell me how they got there.

My grandfather's family is from the UP. My family lives in northern, lower Michigan. So they all call us trolls because we live south of the bridge.

But they're a very insular, dedicated family grew up with, you know, family reunions every summer family is deep into tradition, religious family.

And for a while there, it was quite rare for anyone to leave home. And most of our family still lives up here in Traverse City.

But yeah, my mother's father found his way back to Traverse City because he worked in the Coast Guard. And this is where the family settled down.

And where would your mom's family come from? That's my mom's family.

Oh, that's your mom's. Who was your dad's family?

I don't know too much about my dad's family. I think he had one grandmother who was Polish. I think there's some French Canadian in there on my mom's side.

I've always wanted to do one of those, it was like a 23 in me or whatever to see what it would say. But I've never gotten around to it.

It's easier on Pete's side. It's just a multi.

Yeah, we know where they're from.

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