Ep. 400: The Use of Lethal Force
Bear Grease
MeatEater
4.9 • 7.4K Ratings
🗓️ 17 December 2025
⏱️ 54 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of the Bear Grease podcast, Oklahoma game warden Jared Cramer recounts the harrowing events surrounding a lethal use-of-force incident that erupted from what began as a routine fishing-license check. In his conversation with host Clay Newcomb, Cramer walks through the extraordinary circumstances in which a simple body of water became the unlikely “means” for attempted murder.
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| 1:21.6 | The story that we're going to tell today, those separated by 44 years, is eerily connected. It's the story about the |
| 1:30.5 | use of lethal force and the legal precedence of water as a means of potential murder. I really |
| 1:39.1 | doubt that you're going to want to miss this one. And he actually started shaking me under the water. |
| 1:45.7 | Like he was trying to drown me. |
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