Ep. 394 — Atul Gawande

The Axe Files with David Axelrod

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4.6 • 7.7K Ratings

🗓️ 9 July 2020

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Atul Gawande is a surgeon, bestselling author and writer for The New Yorker. He joins David to talk about how Trump has misled the public in responding to the Coronavirus pandemic, why it “will be a miracle” to get a Covid-19 vaccine quickly, and how U.S. leaders are undermining the formula for safely reopening the country. He also shares his early experiences as the son of two immigrant doctors in rural Ohio, his initial rebellion against medicine, and poignant insights drawn from decades of practicing medicine. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Music
0:06.0	And now, from the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN Audio, the Axe Files, with
0:12.5	your host, David Axelrod.
0:14.5	Music
0:20.0	A tool Gwandi is a doctor, professor, best-selling author, and a New Yorker staff writer.
0:26.0	It's also one of the most incisive thinkers on medicine and our health care system.
0:31.0	So, I sat down with him this week to talk about the raging coronavirus, the next steps
0:35.7	in health reform, and his own truly remarkable body of work.
0:40.0	Here's that conversation.
0:42.0	Music
0:50.0	A tool Gwandi, it's great to see you again, couldn't be at a more consequential time, certainly
0:58.0	when it comes to the issue of health.
1:01.3	So welcome, first of all.
1:02.8	Thank you for having me, David.
1:04.2	It's good to be on the send of listening to your show.
1:08.2	Well, you know, my interest is in great stories and yours is one of them, and we'll get to
1:14.8	that.
1:15.8	We get to first where we are today, you said in May that you were concerned that states
1:21.7	were opening up too quickly, and now we see the harvest of those decisions.
1:28.2	Where are we in this COVID-19 journey right now from your perspective?
1:33.0	We're not in a good place.
1:34.4	Summer is a time when people are generally outdoors and that we knew this would be a time you
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