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🗓️ 24 November 2025
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| 0:00.0 | A couple weeks ago, the biologist Brett Weinstein went on Joe Rogan's podcast. |
| 0:10.9 | Their conversation turned, as it so often does these days, to the topic of AI. |
| 0:17.3 | The Weinstein goes on a monologue pretty early in the episode about AI, and it's the monologue that begins as follows. |
| 0:24.0 | I want to play you a clip here from the start of his conversation. |
| 0:29.8 | Entity, so you'll hear people say, well, it's not really thinking, right? |
| 0:35.1 | It's just figuring out if it was thinking what the next word in the sentence is. |
| 0:39.7 | Garbage. |
| 0:41.6 | In some sense, right? |
| 0:43.0 | Weinstein is right in how he starts the conversation, right? |
| 0:47.4 | He's saying, look, we can't just saying language models predict the next word. |
| 0:52.1 | That's too dismissive. |
| 0:54.0 | So while it's true that, yeah, they literally do predict the next word, that's too dismissive. So while it's true that, yeah, |
| 0:55.0 | they literally do predict the next word, there is a lot of impressive understanding and processing |
| 1:00.2 | that goes into actually figuring out what word to produce. In fact, writing the New Yorker recently, |
| 1:05.8 | James Summer argues that we can even think of the processing that goes into predicting next words |
| 1:10.4 | and language models as |
| 1:11.5 | thinking. And I think he lays out a good argument for that. So Weinstein, he starts, I think I'm on board |
| 1:16.7 | with him. But then as he continues in his discussion, he begins to argue that not only is AI doing |
| 1:23.6 | impressive processing, but is rapidly evolving beyond our ability to control, |
| 1:29.6 | and that it is, quote, like five minutes, in quote, away from starting to manipulate us. |
| 1:35.0 | Weinstein implies that existing LLMs might already be conscious and that we have no real way of |
| 1:39.5 | testing whether or not this is true. |
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