Hi, this is Josh Marshall, and this is the Josh Marshall Podcast.

Today we are going to be talking to two of our colleagues here at TPM, Tierney Sneed and Caitlin McNeil, and they have been our team,

not just on the broader Russia story but particularly the Paul Manifort trial and

what we thought was going to be the two Paul Manifort trials. They were some

combination of them or I guess in some cases maybe both of them

were in the trial

pretty much pretty much throughout and have been to the various hearings and so on and

so forth

so now that we we don't really know where precisely this is going,

but we've clearly passed a pretty critical moment

in not just the Russia probe but specifically in the

palmanifort part of it since last week

uh... really i think to pretty much everyone's surprise

uh... manifort did the whole thing, flipped, to a full cooperation agreement

and so forth.

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