Imagine sweeping through green fields, floating five feet above ground,

sun on your face as you slide by on track to your destination, not a car in the world,

as you simply lean back. And before you know it, you're there. This is how travel should feel,

and on all trains, it does a Vante West coast. Feel good travel.

Hello, hello, everyone. It's Jen. Welcome to Fat Mascara. We have such a good interview today. Listen,

Jess is not here because she's off traveling doing a work traveling thing for Harper's Bazaar.

Hope you're having fun, Jess. She missed out a little bit because we have an excellent interview.

It's Rodrigo Flores Rue. He's a perfumer at Javadon, senior perfumer. Excuse me. He's been working

in the fragrance industry for about three decades and he received his training from Asipka in Versailles.

No, I'm going to save us all from me doing French because you know, that's just going to get butchered.

But basically that school, it translates to the International Higher Institute of perfume

cosmetics and food aromatics. It's one of the famous perfumery schools in France. He's created hundreds

of perfumes for fashion houses like Carolina Herrera, Dolce and Cabana. He's done celebrity scents.

I know he did Holly Berries, Hillary Duff, lots of Indies, including misfit,

Archeist, which won the Indie Fragrance of the Year award in 2021 from the Fragrance Foundation.

So I wanted to have him on the podcast because first of all, I will take any opportunity I can get

to talk to perfumer because they're excellent storytellers. But let me tell you, Rodrigo,

is the best storyteller. And I know you're going to love what he has to say. But I also wanted to

talk to him because I reconnected with him recently. I was at a breakfast for a perfume house called

House of Bow. It's a new perfumery line and he created the fragrances. And he was speaking about

how his Mexican heritage influenced the perfumes that he created for that brand. And that's something

I wanted to hear more about, but I wasn't going to raise my hand and ask in the middle of the event

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