Hey do badders, Jody here. This is the second part of our two-part episode with

Muddstacles Pete Reese when we're talking about obstacle course racing. If you've not listened to

part one, go back and list to that one first, otherwise this one's not going to make much sense.

If you have listened to it, here it is.

But also, what I love about it is you come into a table of your supplies.

And so everyone has thermos flas full of hot lucosate or hot nectar.

And you stock up on all your foods.

You try and eat as much food as you can because you don't really want to be taking out gels and stuff.

Because if you have a hat on, out gels and stuff because it's you,

you, you, if you have a hat on, you'll lose it because it's so muddy.

It's the muddest I've ever been.

And so any gels or food, it's so hard to take on the course.

You get into this transition area, but people are just stuffing as much food as they can

in, trying to get warm, people are, and if you're trying to, if you eat for too long, you will get hypothermic. If you do anything, really hard, yeah. Do you think it's the toughest race, obstacle race in the world? Poor. Four laps, winter nuts. Well, no, because there's things like Wales toughest mutter, which is 24 hours, and I'm sure that's a lot harder. I think it's harder. I think the survival rate. I, I, well, obviously I've never done it. I can't compare. Look, we can ask John. Of that, of that distance, of that distance, you know, of something around the 20 to 30th kilometer mark. I would say, yeah, probably.

But how many races can you think?

Well, 3% finish.

Hmm.

But this is a difficult thing for someone that's not into OCR,

to even judge it,

because the distances don't give any indication of toughness

or anything else.

And even within that as well, you know, as we were talking about with Steph,

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