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Young Heretics

Ep. 34: Are You a Good King, or a Bad King?

Young Heretics

Spencer Klavan

Society & Culture, Education

4.94.5K Ratings

🗓️ 5 January 2021

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Lots of people are thinking it, but not that many people are asking it out loud: is America in for a monarchy in the near future, and would that be such a bad thing? Spencer Klavan thinks the answers are "no" and "yes." In this episode of "Young Heretics," the first installment of a two-part discussion, he explains why by working his way through Livy's remarkably even-handed portrayal of Roman monarchy.

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0:00.0

Today on Young Heretics, I would like to nominate myself, Spencer Clayton, for King of the United States.

0:10.2

No, I don't actually want to do that, although I hope I would have your vote for King. But I do

0:14.8

want to talk about kings and kingship. This is going to be a two-part episode. This is part one

0:21.1

and then part two will come next week. This is a hugely important element of political philosophy.

0:25.7

It is becoming troublesomely relevant right now because for a whole host of reasons, but

0:32.5

one reason that's emerged on this show is as we talk about some of the developments that are going

0:36.4

on this sense of social collapse, decay from democracy into mob rule. A lot of what's going on

0:46.6

is sort of looks to me a little bit as if we could be in line for some kind of really scary

0:54.9

government transition or some strong man to kind of get us, you know, to clear the field. This is

1:00.8

when I did the episode on Rome in the 130 species you talked about the Grocchi and we talked about

1:06.1

the fact that when you have these mass movements of popular unrest, all of this kind of this dead elite

1:11.6

that's not doing anything, you leave the field wide open for people who can come in. I'm not

1:15.4

advocating it hardly at all, in fact at all, but I am saying that you leave the field wide open

1:20.9

for somebody to make use of all that popular energy and basically rally the whole community behind

1:29.2

himself. And so it's come up a lot and another thing that's come up is that the experience of

1:38.1

monarchy is not always bad for every people, right? And that's something that it's very hard to

1:46.0

talk about in an American context because we all, myself included, have a story about America that

1:52.6

begins with the expulsion of a king with, you know, removal of king George from power over the

1:59.6

Americas. And it's like the Romans, as we'll get into, we emerged from that experience with a

2:08.0

deep and I think fully warranted mistrust of kings and of any one fallible human being accruing

2:16.4

too much power to himself. I will now pause and bring you a word from our sponsors. So this show

2:24.8

exists to bring you ancient culture and Western culture more generally and to really make that

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