The The Welcome back to the UFO Rabbit Hole Podcast. I'm your host Kelly Chase. In this

episode I had the pleasure of sitting down with someone that I regard to be

one of the best minds and brightest lights in this field,

Whitley Strieber. Whitley Strieber is an author of both fiction and non-fiction books,

perhaps the most famous of which is his pioneering 1987 book Communion which detailed his experience

of abduction that occurred in the winter of 1985.

Since then, Whitley has made many other contributions to the field, including his most recent book entitled

Them and the book Supernatural, which he co-wrote with Jeffrey J. Cripple, both of which have been referenced

several times on this podcast.

Whitley is also the host of the long-running and iconic Dreamland podcast.

You can find links to all of this and more in the episode brief.

Whitley's work has been instrumental to my... all of this and more in the episode brief.

Whitley's work has been instrumental to my thinking and growth in this space,

and I'm so grateful for both his courage and generosity

and sharing his time and insights.

Before we begin, I want to give you fair warning that what follows is an unfiltered conversation that includes references to multiple entity encounters, abduction experiences, alien implants, the sexual assault

and extraction of reproductive material from humans by N.HIs, and other topics that many people, even in the UFO community, often find to be taboo for one reason or another.

For some people, these sorts of experience or stories are just too bizarre to really be considered credible.

Others acknowledge that these kinds of things do happen,

but they think that it's counterproductive to talk about them while we're at this stage of disclosure for fear of

derailing our progress. Whatever the reasoning, by avoiding the more challenging

aspects of experience or narratives in the larger conversation,

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