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Perpetual Chess Podcast

EP 329- GM Sam Shankland: One of the the top Players in the U.S. on How he Improved His Rapid Game and his Endgame Play, His 2023 Tournament Plans and his Advice for Overcoming Setbacks in Chess

Perpetual Chess Podcast

Perpetual Chess LLC

Sports, Hobbies, Leisure

4.8706 Ratings

🗓️ 9 May 2023

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

This week’s guest on Perpetual Chess is one the United States’ top players, GM Sam Shankland. Sam is a two- time Olympic Gold Medalist, the 2018 US Champion, and an acclaimed author and Chessable creator. A dedicated teacher, Sam is also a lead trainer and the co-founder of Killer Chess Training. As a late starter by the standards of a chess professional, Sam is always especially insightful on the topic of chess improvement. In our conversation, we reflect on his own ups and downs in recent years, as well as the common traits of his most successful students. Sam also shares his thoughts on the first half of the World Championship match, discusses what he did to improve at endgames and at rapid chess, and outlines his 2023 tournament schedule. There is always lots to learn from chatting with Sam, and I greatly enjoyed our discussion! Timestamps of topics discussed can be found below.  Interview Recorded on Monday, April 24, 2023.  Prior interview with Sam, Episode 8  0:00- Check out some of my favorite Chessable courses here: https://go.chessable.com/perpetual-chess-podcast/ 02:00- How does Sam follow the World Championship? What were his impressions after Round 11?  09:00- How is Sam feeling about his own chess game at the moment? What is his study routine?  Mentioned: Prague Masters, FIDE World Cup  15:00- What inspired Sam’s choice to write the forthcoming book, Theoretical Rook Endings?  Mentioned: GM Jacob Aagaard, FM Nate Solon’s blog post, What’s the Point of Studying the Endgame 21:00- What was Sam’s approach to endgames as an up-and-coming player?  Mentioned: GM Alex Yermolinsky’s Every Russian School Boy Knows  24:45- Does Sam think he can make another leap forward as he did in 2018?  27:00- Does Sam track the progress of his students?  Mentioned: GM Abhimanyu Mishra, IM Shahil Dey 29:00- Sam discusses the explosion of chess learning tools  32:00- Who from the younger generation does Sam think might someday be World Champion?  35:00- Will Sam make it a priority to try to get into the 2023 Candidates?  Mentioned: 2021 FIDE World Cup  41:00- What did Sam do to strengthen his rapid game?  41:30- What, in Sam’s opinion, is the best way for adult amateurs to try to improve?  43:30- Does Sam think one should do “Puzzle Rush” type tactics as well?  46:00- Patreon mailbag question: “Should strong amateur players try to find less-explored opening moves to gain an edge on their opponents?”  51:00- What is Sam’’s advice for how to study opening structures?  55:00- How is Sam using engines? 58:00- What is Sam’s advice for overcoming setbacks? 1:04:00- What advice did Sam give IM Levy Rozman when he was mired in an OTB chess slump? 1:08:00- Does the explosive growth of chess affect Sam’s life at all? Should top GMs be jealous of lower rated chess content creators with big followings?  1:14:00- What can we expect in Sam’s new Chessable course on the Neo-Catalan? 1:16:00- Is Sam watching any new TV shows?  1:20:00- Thanks to Sam for joining me! Here are the links to keep up with Sam and his educational material: Chessable courses Books Killer Chess Training  Twitter Sam’s Website  If you would like to help support Perpetual Chess, you can do so here: https://www.patreon.com/perpetualchess Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, everyone and welcome back to perpetual chess.

0:08.0

We have a distinguished guest joining us momentarily.

0:11.0

First, I wanted to give a quick shout out to our presenting chess education sponsor,

0:15.0

Chescible.com.

0:17.0

If you want to check out my favorite courses, there is a link in the show description.

0:20.0

I've got descriptions for a wide variety of levels, wide variety of aspects of your game.

0:26.4

And we have an extremely popular Chesable author joining us this week.

0:31.1

He's probably better known as the 2018 U.S. champion, a two-time Olympic gold medalist,

0:36.2

and one of the top players in the United

0:38.1

States. He's also a trainer and a co-founder of killer chess training. He is, as I said,

0:44.0

a popular and prolific chess bow author, his latest course, Lifetime Repertoars, Neo-Catalan

0:49.9

Part 2, which is a symmetrical English course, will be out basically the same time as this pod.

0:55.2

He's also an acclaimed book author for good measure. His most recent offering from Quality Chess

1:00.1

is Grandmaster Training Camp One calculation. And I am excited to welcome back to the pod five years

1:05.9

after our first interview, Grandmaster Sam Shanklin. Welcome, Sam. Thanks. I'm glad to be here.

1:16.2

Yeah, excited to have you on the pod. It's a real honor, and your life has changed a lot in those five years as we'll get to. But the topic of the moment, of course, is the World Championship,

1:21.1

and I've been covering this on separate podcasts, so I don't feel like we need to discuss it

1:25.5

too much, but it is rare that I get to talk to a player of your experience level and qualifications, Sam.

1:32.6

So I'm just curious, someone who is in the world elite, how do you follow this world championship?

1:38.2

How much of it is as a fan and how much of it is from a sort of professional perspective?

1:42.9

Well, most of it's from a professional perspective.

1:45.6

I mean, the mat, the games are at 2 a.m. California time.

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