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First of all I want to give a very big thank you to all of our panelists who've generously

offered to come here today.

This is a very tricky topic, cultural appropriation

and beauty.

Very sensitive.

There is no perfect language for it,

and it's obviously something that people are very impassioned about so

just want to say it's a safe space here people should say how they feel and

not worry about walking on eggshells.

Exactly.

So to get started, I think we're going to all introduce ourselves.

And I know this is really weird and un-PC,

but because we're an audio podcast with thousands of listeners who can't see

our faces I'm going to ask you also to share not just what you do and who some of

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