Hello and welcome to the Jeannid Says podcast. Today's guest, we have not only a big inspiration,

but I'm lucky to say that it's my best friend, Shivan O'Hagan.

Yes. Hi, Shavon. I'm going to cry. I know. I miss you. I know. We really miss each right now. And so this is like, we're going to, how are we going to cry after this? But I don't, you know the whole thing where you have to say, oh, say something about yourself? Yeah, it doesn't matter about me. What do you mean? I hate telling that story. Can I say it? You know what? I'm going to say it. That's what I mean, because I hate it and I'm trying to find new ways to do it, but obviously you have to do it. But I'm just going to say it because I'm going to say that's what I mean because I hate it and I'm trying to find new ways to do it but obviously you have to do it but I'm just going to say it because I'm going to

describe you okay so Chavonne is my biggest role model in life just because not only does she

have her own business but she taught everyone that you don't have to go do the society norms

you can literally just live the way you want to live

if you work at it. She taught me how to work, make a business. And she just taught me that, like,

I don't have to do the same as everyone else. And she also helps loads and loads of women around

the world, be comfortable in their body and teaches them how to lose weight appropriately how to look after their body and feed their bodies with nutrients all day long so welcome to the show thank you can i say everything you do i'm what the hell about it when you've taught me how to be a better person all around and low and not only me and people, you've, you know, got thinking differently and being kinder to other people. And it's, yeah, it's refreshing. Oh my God, you're so cute. We're going to cry. Oh, my God. We're going to be so much. We're like drunken, boyfriend and girlfriend, you know, on a night out. Oh, my God. We should have drank. oh my gosh it's too already there I fucking would I wouldn't care

I friend, you know, on a night out. Oh my God, we should have drank. Oh my gosh.

It's too early there.

I fucking would. I wouldn't care. I literally am like, I'm in lockdown. Anything. That picture you put about us asking for questions. Like, that's us drinking at 9 a.m. No, well, that wasn't that. Oh, yeah, that was that one. 9 a.m. That was the funnest ever, but we will talk about our memories in a minute,

but I want to get into the actual reason why you're here. that wasn't that? Oh yeah, that was that one. That was the funnest ever, but we will talk about

our memories in a minute, but I want to get into the actual reason why you're here, because

everyone wants to know and everyone wants to cut past this whole stigma of settling down, being

married, having a house, having kids in like, what, late 20s, early 30s, this is like a, this is the norm over here in Ireland. If you're not from Ireland, then... I could be wrong, but I feel like up the north, it's a little bit younger that people settle. Yeah, all my friends are married. And like, I didn't know anyone that was married when I was your age. Yeah. All my friends are married or kids, so are getting married, apart from like my hometown. They're just crazy. But I... Whereas my friends are now getting married, but they'd be a little bit older. Like, they're in their 30s. And they're all getting married. And I'm still like, we're too young for this. I'm like, getting pregnant? Like, do you know what's causing it? And you know what? People are like,

all my friends are settling down. And I am like the complete opposite. I am like absolutely petrified

of it. I don't know about you, but I actually am like sort of petrified to settle down. Like,

you know what? When I talk about this, I don't

like to talk about settling down because I still feel like you can be with someone and you can be

free and you don't have to settle. Yes. I had actually had an email the other day from a girl who

was saying how like she's married and they have a house but she has and like she was dealing with

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