Because we are bored and have nothing better to do, our enemy is now each other.

What's up, guys? Welcome to another five-minute fatherhood. So in our Five-Ment Fathershood Facebook group,

if you guys are not in there, check it out on Facebook. Just type in Five-Munit Fatherhood.

Nathan, who's really active in our community, he kind of called out a moment in the Dad's Building

Team's episode, Jeff and I recently did, where we talked about, this is the quote he pulled out,

to create really powerful family bonds, is to need to need each other. And he put on there,

that's a one-liner antithesis of American culture. In other words,

currently, the goal of a family is to not need each other. And one of the biggest problems with

how to create a family team is that you need to need each other. And I was just thinking about

this, wanted to get your take on this, Jeff. This, what families need to have identified an enemy to go after. And historically,

the enemy was always nature. So usually what happened in most cultures is that families were

always in danger of starving to death, of dying of diseases, of bandits

coming in. And so there was a, there was, there was a immediate threat that created very, very

strong family bonds because they needed each other. They knew that they could not survive on their

own. But what do we do when we don't feel like we need each other? That's kind of the problem

currently in our culture. And it's ironic when I think about what's going on with COVID,

that in the board game world, the only board game I've ever heard of that's popular

that, you know, people talk about where a family plays not against each other, but with each other against the game is this game called Pandemic. Have you ever played that game, Jeff? You ever seen that? Yes, I forgot about that game. Yeah. Yeah. It's like we've played a bunch of times as a family. There's not a lot of games like this. Most, you know, games you're competing against each other. But I just thought, oh, that's kind of ironic that probably the most popular board game in the world over the last

10 years where you play as a team against the game is a pandemic. And so we just experienced for a couple

of months, basically this, we sort of fell into this dynamic for a little bit, which was all of a sudden

there was an enemy bigger than one another.

You know, there was, we needed each other and we were sort of playing against the game or

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