Now, during the COVID thing, I went completely other direction and froze a ton of stuff and,

you know, kind of brought it out. I bought so much non-perishable food for like the apocalypse.

Yes.

What's up guys? Jeff and Jeremy here. Another episode of Five Minute Fatherhood. This is actually

a question we got from our home room community. Stephen, Stefan, depends on what kind of flare you want to put on your name, which by the way, let us know how you actually pronounce that because we love you. You're in the community. We see all the time. Just give me a quick reminder because we appreciate you being so active in homeroom and all that stuff and being a part of the tribe. But you asked a great question. I wanted to bring it to the podcast too. And there was also a second version of this question on like budgeting with groceries that happened, I think a couple days ago too. But how does your family grocery shop, i.e. go to one big shop with a monthly meal plan or smaller shops getting all the different things. COVID appears to have taught us that we tend to spend more, the more shops we do. Yeah, I'd love to hear you guys do it as just a way more complex

organism with different households and size and ages. Yeah, for us, you know, and everyone, you have to kind of back, I would say go backwards from your value system too, first of all, right? Like, are you, if you really hold certain foods and organics and all that stuff really high, well then you're probably going to work backwards from that where you're not going to probably be able to get all that in one place, right? So I would say, yeah, based on some of our values

and stuff like that, we probably try to piece everything together two or three places, right? Costco for really big stuff, Target for really random stuff, and then like farmers markets or Whole Foods or a health store for kind of some of our main health stuff because we're a little crunchy as the phrase goes, you know, which means I could be with some of our stuff. So, so I would say, yeah, that's how we do it. One thing I would say, and you do think you have to have a philosophy of grocery shopping and a philosophy of like even budgeting with grocery shopping. So for us, we went back and forth on this one because this one was really hard for us where like we tried.

Groceries is always like the first place people attack with budgeting. And there's some people that I think have dominated that, you know, very specific. They've saved a ton of money. They have a certain amount. And if they make the food stretch and work and all that, that's totally wise. For us, though, we get really tight on other things and we do the opposite with groceries.

We just have felt we host way too much.

We do so many events, so many people in our house all these different things we just let off the break and we just said like we have no budget on groceries right now sometimes that means the bill can get huge but that means we have to try to pull it from other places where we are really tight and are really specific and are really shrewd and are really frugal with things we don't have that a lot of people have. But I think we just realized that like, yeah, that was just, it's kind of related and not related. But I would say like, you know, I think it's sometimes okay. I feel like everyone never gave us permission that that was okay. And I just felt like four years ago and we were like, eh, we just don't have a budget. Do we need Are we having a party this week? Do we have the money? Then we're going to get it. You know, specifically, like we just make so much stuff for our neighbors.

We do have so many people over stuff like that. But I don't know what you'd say. Yeah, that's huge. I do want to one comment to what you're saying about letting off the budget in this area. you sort of preface that by saying because you guys host so much because there

this is an area where you

want to like give extravagantly um and yeah it's almost our way of like using it for other people we're

not just letting off the break so that we can you know eat more stuff and have more stuff right it's like

it was just too hard to track a budget we thought here's another way to put it our budget started to hinder

our ability to use hospitality and food for how we wanted to use it.

Yeah.

And we had the same experience.

And what a lot of people don't realize is one of the,

maybe the longest passage in the Bible on tithing in Deuteronomy 14 is actually commanding

families, households to use their tithe to have for their festival budget.

Like if you can go and read it, it's a shocking passage.

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