They're bad, they're boys, and occasionally they talk about running.

Yes, it's the Bad Boy Running podcast with your host, Jody Rainford and David Heller.

Come back, baby, come back.

But a bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

I must admit I was a clown to be messing around.

But that doesn't mean that you have to leave town.

Come back.

This one we're doing is a bit of a special because we try and be organized in some capacity,

which obviously is always trouble for us.

But we often hear about story last

minute that we think this is just too good not to just to try and do it and get it on as soon as

possible. Because there's a documentary coming out about the Nike project, about Salazar,

which is obviously one of our most exciting.

Anything to do with insinuation of cheating and Moffara is delicious to us.

So we welcome on the podcast, the editor, so the director of the show, Paul Kemp.

Yay!

How you doing, Paul?

No, it's a dreary day in Toronto, but I think summer's kind of.

Oh, so you're based in Canada. Ah, okay. I hadn't actually tricked that. But what should we

begin? Why don't we start from how did this project come about?

Well, I am a track and field nerd, I guess, geek. I don't know if you'd want to use those words, but I've been following the sport since I was a kid. I'm in my early 50s.

But I've been running, I ran competitively

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