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Ep 278: Profiling Ellen Greenberg’s Death with Sarah Cailean, Part 6

Crime Analyst

Laura Richards

True Crime

4.92.8K Ratings

🗓️ 6 October 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Laura sits down with Sarah Cailean, criminal behaviorist, cold case homicide investigator, and former detective who recently appeared in the Hulu Docuseries, ‘Death in Apartment 603: What Happened to Ellen Greenberg?  Laura asks Sarah about her analytical process and assessment of the case and as they share their experience and analysis with each other, their discussion brings fresh perspective and offers listeners new insights into what happened on January 26 2011. It’s a compelling and eye-opening conversation with two leading expert behavioral analysts you don’t want to miss. Clips https://youtu.be/23d-1J0_geI?si=ijMbDgAQUPAF-BtS Sources  Crime Analyst Series: The Case of Ellen Greenberg  Forensically Deconstructing the 911 Call   Crime Analyst YouTube episode with Dr Jaime Zuckerman   20 posts in the Crime Analyst Squad about Ellen Greenberg: patreon.com/CrimeAnalyst  Dr. Wayne Ross 2021 Report  Dr. Cyril Wecht 2012 Report  #EllenGreenberg #Apartment603 #Hulu #JusticeForEllen #DomesticAbuse #CoerciveControl #SamuelGoldberg #Separation #Risk #Femicide #CrimeAnalyst #TrueCrime #Podcast #HiddenHomicide #HULU #SarahCailean Advocacy and the Fight for Justice  Ellen Greenberg’s parents have been fighting for fourteen years to seek justice for their daughter.   How You Can Help  Support Justice for Ellen by signing the petition.  Stay updated and show support on Facebook: Justice for Ellen Facebook.  Contribute to the GoFundMe campaign  Contact the Mayor of Philadelphia to request a closer investigation and advocate for justice for Ellen. You can reach out via:  Webpage: Philadelphia Mayor's Office  Twitter: @PhillyMayor  Facebook: @PhillyMayor  Instagram: @PhillyMayor  Mail: Pennsylvania Office of Attorney General, Strawberry Square, Harrisburg, PA 17120  Contact Governor Shapiro to request that Ellen’s manner of death be officially listed as a homicide and that her murder be thoroughly investigated: Contact Governor Shapiro  You can find more from Sarah Cailean here: Instagram @caileansarah  Podcast: Who Took Misty Copsey? - Podcast - Apple podcasts https://share.google/iF8dU4zlnVfxTeKn8 Thank You to Crime Analyst Sponsors Who Make the Show Possible. Support The Show Through the Sponsors: Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/crime #rulapod Right now, get 33% off your first Live It Up order when you subscribe at LETS LIVE IT UP.com/CRIMEANALYST and use code CRIMEANALYST.  Masterclasses and Crime Analyst Resources and Community  For those interested in learning more, Laura offers 2025 Masterclasses covering topics such as profiling behavior, preventing murder and suicide in slow motion, DASH, DASH Train the Trainer, coercive control, and stalking. Registration details and more training information are available at:  Register for Masterclasses  www.dashriskchecklist.com  www.thelaurarichards.com  The Crime Analyst Squad is a growing and dynamic community offering expert insight, in-depth conversations, exclusive episodes and videos, and live events. Join the community or follow along:  Patreon: Crime Analyst Squad  YouTube: @crimeanalyst  Facebook: Crime Analyst Podcast  Instagram: @crimeanalyst, @laurarichards999  Threads: @crimeanalyst  X (Twitter): @thecrimeanalyst, @laurarichards999  TikTok: @crimeanalystpod  Website: www.crime-analyst.com  If you found this episode valuable, please consider leaving a five start review wherever you listen  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

A vibrant young teacher with everything to look forward to found dead with 20 stab wounds in her own kitchen.

0:06.9

Her parents refused to believe she died by suicide, their fight for justice raising confounding questions.

0:15.4

She answers on the floor with blood everywhere.

0:18.1

Is it the house or part?

0:20.0

Oh, no.

0:21.6

A broken latch, a pool of blood, and 20 knife wounds.

0:26.6

There's a knife sticking out of her hunter.

0:29.6

Oh, she stands herself?

0:31.6

Ellen Greenberg was found dead by her fiance in the kitchen of their Philadelphia apartment in 2011.

0:38.2

The medical examiner initially ruled the 27-year-old's death a homicide before switching to

0:43.7

suicide.

0:44.6

Philadelphia is calling this a suicide just does not add up.

0:49.4

This is an unusual case because there were mistakes from the very beginning.

0:53.8

I have investigated stabbing

0:55.2

suicides in my career, but I've never seen anyone stab themselves in the back. The case shut without

1:01.7

further investigation, leaving more questions than answers. What do you think happened to your daughter?

1:07.7

I don't know what happened to her. It's so painful and so crushing. For 14 long years, her parents,

1:15.6

Sandy and Josh Greenberg, have made it their life's work to fight to get their daughter's

1:20.6

gruesome death fully investigated. We have it more. It's been a long layered process. It's like an onion.

1:28.3

There's still more layers.

1:30.4

Their fight chronicle in a new docu-series by ABC News Studios, Death in Apartment 603.

1:36.7

What happened to Ellen Greenberg?

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