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Welcome, everybody.

It's Thursday, October 30th, 2014. And I'm glad to welcome back to the show, David Beto. Longtime listeners may remember David from the episode in which we talked about life before the welfare state. What happened before the welfare state? So we talked about his book, from mutual aid to the welfare state. Well, today we're going to talk about a different topic. Black Maverick is the name of the book, and it's a study of the unfortunately forgotten figure, TRM Howard, civil rights leader and entrepreneur. Very interesting stuff. David Beto is Professor of History

at the University of Alabama, and I'm very glad to welcome him back. David, thanks for being here.

Thank you for inviting me. I'm sorry to say that when I was introducing you just now and

talking about the book, I neglected to mention that this is actually a co-authored book

that you co-authored with your wife, Linda.

Yeah, my wife is a professor at Stillman College, which is historically a black college,

and helped open a lot of doors in getting interviews and contacts that made the book possible.

I'm reading here an article written, oh, I guess about five years ago now, in the Wall Street Journal,

talking about your book, as a matter of fact, and it begins with the case of Emmett Till,

and I think that's actually a good place to start our conversation.

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