Ep. 274 – The Creative Force of the Universe

Ram Dass Here And Now

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🗓️ 31 March 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

In this Q&A session from 1993, Ram Dass talks about his passions, the balance of separateness and unity, dealing with turmoil, the creative force of the universe, and more.

This episode of Here and Now is from a Q&A session at an event in Boise, Idaho in April 1993.

Ram Dass begins with questions about dealing with people who might not like you, what his current passions in life are, and the art of staying in the present moment.
Ram Dass moves on to inquiries about hesitating when action feels needed, making the transition from somebody to nobody, and the limits of Carl Jung’s work with mythic archetypes.
Finally, Ram Dass answers questions about dealing with polarization and turmoil in the world, offers his personal feelings about organized religion, and explores the creative force of the universe. He ends with a brief guided meditation centered around awareness and compassion for those who are suffering.

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“There is a process where, when you get out of the way, the whole creative force of the universe keeps expressing itself through the way you walk, talk, dance, paint, write, whatever your thing is.” – Ram Dass

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0:00.0	And there is a process where when you get out of the way, the whole creative force of the
0:11.9	universe keeps expressing itself through the way you walk, talk, dance, paint, write, whatever
0:17.1	your thing is.
0:22.2	Welcome to another episode of Here and Now with Ram Dass.
0:27.1	This is number 274, The Creative Force of the Universe.
0:31.5	And it is a Q&A session from 1993, and Ram Dass talks about a lot of topics,
0:41.2	one of which is Carl Jung's archetypes.
0:51.9	And as we know, this astral plane is just one of many planes that we can experience from the more unitive state to the more eyeness state, the idea is that we can
0:56.9	move between them with more flexibility. He also reflects on the teachings of Bill Wilson, who,
1:03.5	if you don't know, was the founder of Alcoholics Anonymous. And Ram Dass talks about both the
1:08.1	brilliance of the 12 steps and also how they can constrict our identity.
1:14.8	He particularly emphasizes the importance of moving through step 11 and 12.
1:20.9	And if you don't know, step 11 encourages a deepening of our connection with a higher power on a daily basis.
1:30.1	And step 12 calls us to live these spiritual principles in all areas of our lives. Ram Dass also takes a candid look
1:38.9	at organized religion, which often attempts to take ineffable experiences where we are in more of a unity consciousness
1:47.9	and then try to talk about them with these dense, heavy things called words and sometimes
1:54.2	the metaphor. And we can get so caught up in that that we forget that it's just pointing at
2:00.0	something. We don't want to get the tail wagging the
2:03.8	dog. We want to be more interested in the living spirits of the thing. He also shares some
2:12.3	much needed wisdom about navigating suffering, so crucial in today's world, where we have to balance
2:20.8	somehow in our own way being aware of the suffering, the immense suffering, but also connected
2:30.3	to joy and rightness. And again, that's planes of consciousness, right?
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