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Bear Grease

Ep. 274: Exhuming Osceola's Grave

Bear Grease

MeatEater

Wilderness, Sports

4.87.1K Ratings

🗓️ 27 November 2024

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

On this final episode on the life and legacy of Osceola, Clay Newcomb talks with expert Dr. Patricia Wickman about the 1967 exhumation of the grave of Osceola and the astonishing surprise that they found. Jake Tiger, of the Seminole Tribe of Oklahoma, explains why there was never any effort made by the Seminole tribe to move the grave of Osceola to Florida.  Chandler DeMayo of the Seminole Tribe of Florida brings his perspective on the use of the Seminole name and traditional images in association with Florida State University.

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0:00.0

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0:12.0

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0:21.9

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0:28.3

firstlight.com. That's f-I-R-S-T-L-I-T-E.com.

0:51.4

They believe that spirits, when they die, should be buried facing the east because when the sun comes up and the milky way comes out in the morning just before the sun is full.

0:56.1

The spirit needs that milky way to walk across to the spirit world where he's going to live. And if they don't bury him properly, and this is why they want

1:02.3

Osceola's head, because he's buried in pieces, and he can't rest until he's back together.

1:10.8

And the critical thing about that story, and I'm going to tell you now,

1:14.0

and I'll tell you again later on, is that the only people who have the right

1:20.4

to make disposition of his head, if and when it is ever found,

1:25.4

and I have worked hard looking for it, are the Seminole people in Florida, the only ones.

1:33.1

In the history books, when a person dies and is buried, aside from the rippling impacts of their life on society, their story usually fades to an end.

1:47.6

Their physical and material impact evaporate at death. That is, unless you're osteola, the story continues. The life of this war leader, the mastermind of

1:56.9

the seminal resistance to his tribe's removal out of Florida stretches 129 years post-barial

2:04.1

when they decide to dig up his body in search of some unanswered questions,

2:10.5

which really only give us more questions.

2:14.5

My friends, mystery remains,

2:22.1

and the truth is sometimes more wild than the myth.

2:29.3

I really doubt that you're going to want to miss this last episode on Osceola on Thanksgiving week.

2:39.7

And as a bonus at the end, we're going to talk with the Florida Seminole about their partnership with Florida State University.

2:41.5

It's pretty unique. Yeah. My name is Clay Newcomb, and this is the Bear Grease podcast, where we'll explore things forgotten but relevant.

3:10.4

Search for insight in unlikely places and where we'll tell the story of Americans who live their lives close to the land.

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